From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,349657f8b72f2411 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: David Starner Subject: Re: Where's Ada95 when OO languages are discussed? Date: 1999/03/23 Message-ID: <36F837D3.3F7227FA@aasaa.ofe.org>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 458200178 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7d8ik6$s6d$1@its.hooked.net> <36F7F02E.BC57F7CB@aasaa.ofe.org> <87emmfpw3t.fsf@mihalis.ix.netcom.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: SLUG Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-03-23T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Chris Morgan wrote: > > David Starner writes: > > > 1. Ada doesn't get much respect. By many people, it's considered a > > overgrown monstrosity built by commitee. I also get the impression it's > > not used for much mainstream stuff. Smalltalk has history, and C++, Java > > and Eiffel are the new showoffs. > > When you talk abot history and showoffs, do you ever check your facts > first? Yes. Everything said is true. You inferred things that weren't meant to be implied. > Ada's installed base is much larger than Eiffel I wasn't trying to compare Ada and Eiffel. I was merely saying that one reason people aren't familiar with Ada is because it's not as commonly used as C++ or Java. > and Ada certainly has history too (hint, C++ was designed with some nods > towards Ada83). Okay, but Smalltalk is considered one of the first two OO languages, with Simula. Smalltalk predates Ada, IIRC, and certainly predates Ada as a fully OO language. > Finally, neither version was designed by committee. "By many people, it's considered". I've read all over the net that Ada is what you get when you have a language designed by committe*, and the first thing friends say when I mention Ada is "I guess it's all right, if you like a language designed by committe." I knew that Ada83 wasn't designed by commitee, and I'll take your word on Ada95. It's just that "common knowledge" opposes you. *It really shouldn't be as big a slam as it is. Algol 60 was designed by a commitee, and it's one of the more important computer languages ever. Of course, OTOH, you have Algol 68, C++ and probably PL/1. Considering that the vast vast majority of languages written by one person stink, that's not that bad a track record. -- David Starner - OSU student - dstarner98@aasaa.ofe.org If you want a real optimist, look up Ray Bradbury. Guy's nuts. He actually likes people. -David Brin