From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,35ce1c7836290812 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: David Botton Subject: Re: SGI GNAT Question? (Long) Date: 1999/03/07 Message-ID: <36E294AB.86AFBA58@Botton.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 452229545 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7bflkk$78i$1@news.ro.com> <7bhlb2$h4n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7bia5u$3lt$1@news.ro.com> <7bkasm$rlt$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36DE8585.2B5E6A5C@spam.com> <7bmbr5$j3p$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36DFA6FB.D3A2AD84@spam.com> <7bos1q$ogq$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7bp6pv$2mm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7bpjoe$eia$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36E25778.C056829@chocolatesaltyballs.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-03-07T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: root wrote: > Note the use of the "if" at the start. Are you claiming literal > ownership of GNAT? I think Robert Dewar was referring to those parts of GNAT which were written by ACT. There is no reason why he could not withhold further development of these portions or re-release those portions as separate packages not under the GPL. > ALL versions of GNAT are GPL and they always will be, > You can no more take GNAT back, that Larry Walls, Linus Torvalds and > Richard Stallman could take back perl, linux, or emacs. That may be true, but the GPL does not say that the software must be released to the public. There are many drivers for linux and other patches to the kernel that are not GPL and have all the same restrictions as more "traditional" non-GPL software. As an illustration, the program PINE branched about a year ago in to a GPL version and a non-GPL version. GNAT as it is today can not be taken away, but that doesn't mean that future work has to be made public or under the GPL. > > > When you get a licensed product from Microsoft, you know > > perfectly well that they still own the program and can do > > anything they like with it. > > So you have to use Microsoft as an example to make yourself look good in > the GPL world ? No, Robert Dewar was making it clear the the Microsoft EULA and the Free Software Foundation GPL are the same category of document, a license agreement. > The terms copyleft, and its simply a licence as a Rolls Royce and a Lada > are cars. Is copyleft a legal term? I thought it was slang for the copyrighted software that used copyright law to keep information public instead of private. I'll look it up. David Botton