From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1479b753518e2325 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: HNBeck@t-online.de (Hans N. Beck) Subject: Re: how to make Ada more popular? Date: 1999/01/21 Message-ID: <36A77F86.B04BC986@t-online.de>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 435328390 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <787hk5$q6t@drn.newsguy.com> X-Sender: 07203922280-0001@t-online.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.de X-Trace: news05.btx.dtag.de 916946683 31604 07203922280-0001 990121 19:24:43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-01-21T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Hello,: > bill_1@nospam.com wrote: > > : lets face it. Ada is not used much in commerical sector. > > Well, this depends on the domain you are talking about. > If you said commercial safety critical systems (commercial > aviation, nuclear power, high-speed rail transport, etc.), you would > probably be wrong. If you said commercial business systems, > I would certainly agree. > > : What can be done to improve the situation? > > : A very busy area these days is software development in the internet: > : Web servers and Application servers. > : ... > > : silly idea? what do you think? > > Building a web server or an application server in Ada seems like > a very reasonable thing to do. Building components in Ada that run > on top of one of the existing application servers also makes > sense. > > Note that the ORBExpress/Ada CORBA ORB from Objective > Information Systems (www.ois.com) is written in Ada 95, > and performs many of the most critical functions of > an application server. I am quite sure OIS is not going the > open source route, but feel free to organize and get such > an effort going that way yourself. Using one of the Ada95-to-Java > compilers would make a lot of sense for part of this effort as well. > > : Bill. > If I talk to other about writing GPL' ed software in Ada, the eyes grow bigger and bigger. To my experience, the old story about Ada (complicated, complicated, oversized, complicated, by the way, what is it ?) you can find in many peoples mind. There must be examples of open source software projects, where the code i.e. the problem and its solution vote for Ada itself. If that can be done by rewriting solutions which exist anyway like web servers ? I would prefer, that some of the new elements for the toolset GNU/LINUX be written in Ada before they exist in C. Example: I'm think about an OODBMS system, realized like a library as guile, to plug via CORBA in GNOME or KDE environement. somethink like this. The story about the complicated oversized non-modern because leightweight object design Ada must be killed by (new) examples ;-) Greetings Hans -- Dipl.-Ing. Hans N. Beck -------------------------------------------- Technischer + didaktischer Computereinsatz -------------------------------------------- Waldstr. 28, D-75045 Walzbachtal \ Tel: +49 (0)7203 922280 / \ Fax: +49 (0)7203 922281 / \ Handy: 0177 5383233 / eMail: hnbeck@t-online.de