From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ab3a570d8b1d6a7f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Lionel Draghi Subject: Re: UML to Ada mapping Date: 1999/01/16 Message-ID: <36A0696C.B02F59D4@filnet.fr>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 433450396 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36993EA5.F5A29C5F@filnet.fr> <369D2FA6.535EC87D@fhtw-berlin.de> <3.0.3.32.19990115095018.00750514@sorbonne> To: Nasser Kettani X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en, it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-01-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Nasser Kettani wrote: > > NO NO NO NO. > > I have never said that Rose allows Round Trip Engineering (RTE) for Ada. > > I was proud to say exactly the contrary. > Ok, i apologize to spread my misunderstanding. > I reacted to Softeam saying that RTE was EASY for Ada since they claim RTE > support > for C++ and Java. > And my reaction was to say that for Ada, it is quite difficult and Rose > does not > support it. > > However, there might be some misunderstanding regarding RTE definiion. > > Our definition of RTE is that we maintain consistency between code and the > UML model > WHATEVER the user does. Especially, if the user modifies the code after > generation > and adds design information in the code as as a new class, a new association, > a new inheritance relationship, ... > > In this case, talking about RTE for Ada is misleading. > > If your definition of RTE is > -1 model > -2 generate code > -3 modify code > -4 modify manually the model > -5 regenerate code and keep changes. > > so, Rose supports that for Ada95 > I have no definition for RTE, but yours seems to be the best that one can expect from a tool for the code generation point. However, the process above described can be also effective. It is a reasonable constraint to do, as described by Sylvain Wallez, "structural" modifications in the tools, and coding details outside. I had also a conclusive experience doing so with Intecs HOOD tools. The important point, i think, is that the tools should be able to import/export the code part outside of its scope without problems. > Regards > > Nasser > > >Relating to your opinion on the UML and UML tools maturity, tools > >providers obviously don't agree with you. Today, Nasser Ketani > >(Rational) was proud to precise that Rose allows Round Trip Engineering > >even with Ada, although it is not as obvious as in Java or C++. > > > > Nasser Kettani > ************ ... ________________________________________________________________________ Lionel Draghi http://ada.eu.org/gtkada/ http://attac.org/