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From: dhansen@btree.com (Dave Hansen)
Subject: Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java
Date: 1999/01/13
Date: 1999-01-13T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <369d18cb.26979834@192.168.2.34> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 77j34t$b11@agora.dmz.khoral.com

On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:27:54 -0500, "Richard Krehbiel"
<rich@kastle.com> wrote:

>Marin David Condic wrote in message <369CBAED.20BE91CA@pwfl.com>...
>>I've got a jet engine control for the F22 fighter that is programmed in
>>Ada and another one for the JSF programmed in Ada. Those engines aren't
>>going away any time real soon and so I've got similar concerns.
>
>I would have to speculate that for this application, the amount of money you
>spend on the compiler, tools, and support is virtually irrelevant.

Just to provide a data point, I've worked on Military, commercial
avionics, process control, semiconductor research and many other kinds
of projects.  I have yet to find one where the budget for software
tools is "virtually irrelevant."

>Supposing Ada falls into disfavor and is relegated to a few critical
>realtime tasks like yours, it's likely your Ada vendor will still be most
>happy to continue to offer you years of support and upgrades, so long as the
>contract is lucrative (and it can keep their company afloat).

And supposing demons fly out of your nose when you modify an lvalue
twice between sequence points in C++?

But I don't think either occurance is very likely...

>
>Most of the rest of us care deeply whether the compiler and toolset costs
>$50,000 a year for the support contract.  Choosing a language which is not

Wow!  Who's charging that much?

Last time I checked, OpenAda from Rational was $99, ObjectAda from
Aonix was $245.  I don't know what they charge for support, but I
would guess it's less than $50K/yr.

>just a good language, but which is also popular, means we enjoy econmies of
>scale and competition that ensure low prices and a choice of vendors.  This
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

and programmers.  Most programmers looking for a job claim to know
C++.  How well they know it is another matter...

>is just one point of many to consider, but unless you find GNAT suitable, it
>may tend to favor C++ over Ada.

I guess I'm not sure how GNAT wouldn't be suitable, especially to a
group considering C++ as an alternative...

All IMHO, a guy who makes his living writing C and C++ code...

Regards,

                          -=Dave
Just my (10-010) cents
I can barely speak for myself, so I certainly can't speak for B-Tree.
Change is inevitable.  Progress is not.




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Thread overview: 450+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-12  0:00 Ada vs C++ vs Java Leszek Sczaniecki
1999-01-13  0:00 ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Ken Keys
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-19  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-19  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00       ` John Woodruff
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Marc A. Criley
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Ralph Cook
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Bob Munck
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Dave Whipp
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Peter
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Corvus
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-14  0:00     ` John Birch
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Bjarne Stroustrup
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Pat Rogers
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-16  0:00           ` Pat Rogers
1999-01-17  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00             ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-17  0:00               ` Ell
1999-01-17  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00                 ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-17  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-19  0:00                       ` adam
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` kevin
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Michael Rubenstein
1999-01-19  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Lieven Marchand
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-21  0:00                             ` adam
1999-01-23  0:00                               ` Simon Wright
1999-01-22  0:00                       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                         ` adam
1999-01-23  0:00                           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-01  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-01  0:00                               ` Al Christians
1999-02-02  0:00                                 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                     ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00                         ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-24  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-24  0:00                             ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-25  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-25  0:00                                 ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-27  0:00                     ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-27  0:00                       ` Instruction Set Semantics Nick Roberts
1999-01-28  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-27  0:00                       ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Scott Johnson
1999-01-28  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-17  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-04  0:00                 ` mll
1999-02-04  0:00                   ` mike
1999-02-04  0:00                     ` John McCabe
1999-02-04  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` John McCabe
1999-02-04  0:00                       ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-06  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-02-06  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Al Christians
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` William Clodius
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` Matt Austern
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-06  0:00                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-06  0:00                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` atomly
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-10  0:00                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-10  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` mike
1999-02-10  0:00                                       ` nabbasi
1999-02-10  0:00                                       ` Al Christians
1999-02-12  0:00                                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-12  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-11  0:00                                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-12  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-13  0:00                                         ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-02-15  0:00                                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-16  0:00                                           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-15  0:00                                       ` P.S. Norby
1999-02-16  0:00                                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Fredric L. Rice
     [not found]                           ` <79fnce$iv8@drn.newsguy.c <36beecef.70d8ed5e@pwfl.com>
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-07  0:00                         ` James S. Rogers
1999-02-07  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-07  0:00                             ` James S. Rogers
1999-02-07  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-07  0:00                                 ` atomly
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` Dan Nagle
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Pascal Obry
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-07  0:00                             ` Simon Wright
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` nabbasi
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
     [not found]                             ` <79 <36BF2098.11E0761B@erols.com>
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Bjarne Stroustrup
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
     [not found]                           ` <79k65l$s0t@drn.news <36c006b8.fc6c187d@acenet.com.au>
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                       ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-09  0:00                       ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Michael Stark
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-02-12  0:00                           ` Michael Stark
1999-02-06  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-08  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-09  0:00                           ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                     ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` P.S. Norby
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` Andrew Koenig
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Wolfgang Denk
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Herman
1999-01-15  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-25  0:00             ` Real-time dyn allctn (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00               ` Niklas Holsti
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00               ` John Birch
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-27  0:00                   ` John Birch
1999-01-25  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-28  0:00                   ` dmitrik
1999-01-29  0:00                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Ada vs C++ vs Java John Birch
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-15  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-16  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` Draconian coding standards (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-19  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` Simon Wright
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` Bob Munck
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Crazy Pete
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00                 ` Judah Diament
1999-01-16  0:00                   ` bill
1999-01-16  0:00                     ` Al Christians
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Judah Diament
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-17  0:00                       ` bill
1999-01-26  0:00                       ` Enforcement of coding standards (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-26  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Dennis
1999-01-18  0:00             ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-18  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                 ` Peter Hend�n
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                 ` Crazy Pete
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                     ` Christopher Browne
1999-01-19  0:00                       ` bill
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` bourguet
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` Al Christians
1999-01-21  0:00                                   ` Matthew Heaney
     [not found]                                     ` <m3g194bhzh.fsf@fred.muc.de>
1999-01-21  0:00                                       ` Stephen Leake
1999-01-21  0:00                                     ` Al Christians
1999-01-22  0:00                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                         ` bill_1
1999-01-22  0:00                                           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                             ` Ada mode requests (Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-24  0:00                                                 ` dewar
1999-01-28  0:00                                                   ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                     ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                     ` dewar
1999-01-29  0:00                                                       ` John McCabe
1999-01-30  0:00                                                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-30  0:00                                                           ` John McCabe
1999-01-25  0:00                                                 ` John McCabe
     [not found]                                                   ` <36afc1ec.20165240@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-26  0:00                                                     ` John McCabe
1999-01-27  0:00                                                       ` dennison
     [not found]                                                       ` <36b019e5.897220@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-28  0:00                                                         ` John McCabe
     [not found]                                                           ` <36b170cd.1793333@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-29  0:00                                                             ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                           ` dewar
1999-01-29  0:00                                                             ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-01-30  0:00                                                               ` John McCabe
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                                 ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                                 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-24  0:00                                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00                                             ` Ada vs C++ vs Java bill_1
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-23  0:00                                             ` Simon Wright
1999-01-23  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                                                 ` Simon Wright
1999-01-24  0:00                                                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                                             ` dewar
     [not found]                                             ` <36af43e6.7584350@news.geccs.gecm.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <36b04b91.9547583@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-26  0:00                                                 ` Ada Mode wish list John McCabe
1999-01-26  0:00                                               ` Simon Wright
1999-01-22  0:00                                         ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Peter Hend�n
1999-01-20  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-01-21  0:00                   ` Martin Dowie
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-18  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-01-15  0:00       ` James Kanze
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-17  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00             ` phil
1999-01-17  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00             ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Dynamic memory? (was Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` Ken Keys
1999-01-26  0:00                     ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                             ` news.oxy.com
1999-01-25  0:00                             ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-26  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Laurent Safa
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Richard Kenner
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` bourguet
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` James Kanze
1999-01-20  0:00                       ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Ada vs C++ vs Java James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00           ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00             ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00               ` James Kanze
1999-01-19  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Chris Gray
1999-01-16  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00     ` Ken Keys
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Corvus
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Herman
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-13  0:00       ` Michael Trausch
1999-01-14  0:00         ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-14  0:00           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Jeff Carter
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-16  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00         ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-24  0:00         ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-20  0:00       ` Peter Flynn
     [not found]   ` <01be3f41$c1205ba0$5704fbd1@longslide>
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Tom Maier
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Vladyslav Kosulin
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1999-01-17  0:00       ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-20  0:00         ` Gerry Quinn
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-22  0:00   ` Tov Are Jacobsen
1999-01-13  0:00 ` John Woodruff
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Peter
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Peter Sch�ller
1999-01-14  0:00     ` dennison
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-15  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00   ` David Gillon
1999-01-24  0:00     ` Y2.1K (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-05  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Richard Krehbiel
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` dennison
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-15  0:00         ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Emil Rojas
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Herman
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00     ` David R. Conrad
1999-01-15  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Al Christians
1999-01-16  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Bob Munck
1999-01-24  0:00         ` COBOL/Top-Down prog'g (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Patrick Wibbeler
1999-01-26  0:00       ` Ken
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-26  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Peter Amey
1999-01-29  0:00         ` P.S. Norby
1999-01-27  0:00       ` Robert Garskof
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Jay O'Connor
1999-01-28  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-28  0:00             ` Joshua fit de wall
1999-01-29  0:00               ` Herman
1999-01-31  0:00             ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
1999-01-31  0:00               ` him/her: was: " robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Peter Amey
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Chris Gray
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Tom Maier
1999-01-21  0:00         ` Brent A Ellingson
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Crazy Pete
1999-01-15  0:00     ` Markus Kuhn
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Peter
1999-01-15  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-14  0:00   ` jim.hyslop
1999-01-15  0:00     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-14  0:00   ` dennison
1999-01-14  0:00 ` Pete Becker
1999-01-15  0:00   ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-15  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00     ` James Kanze
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Scott Johnson
     [not found] ` <01be3f5e$26453ca0$5704fbd1@longslide>
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Siamak Kaveh
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-18  0:00       ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00 ` Bruce Detter
1999-01-18  0:00   ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00     ` Bruce Detter
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Thanks everyone! (was Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-19  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-19  0:00           ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-19  0:00           ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-22  0:00 ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Dr. Hubert B. Keller
1999-01-22  0:00   ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Roedy Green
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-01-13  0:00 Leszek Sczaniecki
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Network
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-01-13  0:00 ` David A. Frantz
1999-01-14  0:00   ` forsyth
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00     ` robert_dewar
     [not found] ` <369CF2CF.440F413C@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1999-01-16  0:00   ` bob
     [not found] <m3k8yhy6fe.fsf@fred.muc.de>
1999-01-21  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-21  0:00   ` forsyth
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-25  0:00       ` Walter Mallory
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