From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.107.152.79 with SMTP id a76mr11503039ioe.130.1521798507259; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 02:48:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:4045:: with SMTP id o5-v6mr607533oti.6.1521798507103; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 02:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!u184-v6no503209ita.0!news-out.google.com!j10-v6ni473ite.0!nntp.google.com!199-v6no503676itl.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 02:48:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.116.177.118; posting-account=z-xFXQkAAABpEOAnT3LViyFXc8dmoW_p NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.116.177.118 References: <9ed9edb1-3342-4644-89e8-9bcf404970ee@googlegroups.com> <26a1fe54-750c-45d7-9006-b6fecaa41176@googlegroups.com> <656fb1d7-48a4-40fd-bc80-10ba9c4ad0a4@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <36741a70-3e70-4809-8ee1-0043a0c4ce0c@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada-Oriented GUI From: Bojan Bozovic Injection-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 09:48:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51163 Date: 2018-03-23T02:48:26-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 10:05:08 AM UTC+1, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote: > On 03/23/2018 12:47 AM, Randy Brukardt wrote: > >=20 > > A system that decides to just ignore race conditions as "unavoidable" i= s > > going in the wrong direction. Most likely, it will kill us all when it'= s > > running self-driving cars and autopilots. >=20 > Autopilots have to be certified to DO178B/C. They'll continue to be writt= en in=20 > Ada and not kill us. >=20 > Self-driving cars, though operating in a much more complex environment, d= on't=20 > seem to need any certification, and will probably kill us all. >=20 > --=20 > Jeff Carter > "From this day on, the official language of San Marcos will be Swedish." > Bananas > 28 So true, but complexity sells instead of correctness, so we have generation= s of programmers which continue to write sloppy code instead doing the righ= t thing, and always thinking whether the work would be liked by Tony Hoare = or late Edsger W. Dijkstra. For program code to be correct, DO-178B/C isn't= needed, though following DO-178B/C results in correct program code.