From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 2 May 93 22:16:57 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!vger .nsu.edu!g_harrison@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George C. Harrison, Norfolk State Uni versity) Subject: Re: Incorporating 9X into Ada courses Message-ID: <3653.2be4101a@vger.nsu.edu> List-Id: In article <1993Apr30.160400.25617@seas.gwu.edu>, mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michae l Feldman) writes: > In article jls@ddciiny.UUCP (Jonathan Schilling) wr ites: >> >>Not to get into the general argument about whether the existence of the >>Ada market as a whole is due to lack of competition, it must be noted >>that *within* the Ada market, there is definitely competition. There are .. good comments... from Greg, Mike, and Jonathan Schilling Given that the Ada mandate has really directly or indirectly caused Ada vendors not to market on a wide basis, there is still the old cause that we have to seriously consider: Borland and Microsoft. These companies know how to sell software. As was speculated at the TRI-Ada and Ada Technology conferences, they also have a stake in not supporting Ada environments: it may only erode their C/C++ markets, and the cost of Ada development, marketing, etc. is not worth the trade off. However, the world is not using C++. Companies still use (and purchase updates to) PL/1, Pascal, C, FORTRAN, etc. There is also the problem that some companies don't advertise what software they use. Personal conversations at the above conferences proved to me that Ada is more widely used than can be publically documented. ... maybe we need to encourage Computer Language Magazine to have an annual Ada issue. maybe those up us in the academic market should yell for more and better educational discounts. maybe we ought to refuse to purchase equipment that doesn't come with Ada compilers. George +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | George C. Harrison | PHONE : (804) 683-8654 | "Ada Spoken Here"| | Professor of Computer Science | FAX : (804) 683-9229 +------------------+ | Norfolk State University | g_harrison@vger.nsu.edu | | | 2401 Corprew Avenue +-------------------------+ | | Norfolk VA 23504 | loop exit when RE_TIRED; end loop; | +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------+