From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,365c587e3030d8f6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Dave Wood Subject: Re: Win32Ada Date: 1998/11/15 Message-ID: <364EA0F6.A66B888F@cts.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 412020863 Cache-Post-Path: wagasa.cts.com!unknown@arniek.cts.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <72as14$bh4$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> <01be0e3b$a980c340$5da65c8b@aptiva> <72ev6o$gn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <364BE12F.F38A285C@cts.com> <72iodh$9gq$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Deja Vous Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: dpw@cts.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-11-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: dewar@gnat.com wrote: > > In article <364BE12F.F38A285C@cts.com>, > dpw@cts.com wrote: > > The curious thing is how this happened in the first place > > If I understand the history correctly, Intermetrics made > > the bindings through direct government funding, so how > > did we get into a situation where taxpayers paid for > > this, as they did GNAT, and yet have to get Bill's > > permission to use it? There must be some interesting > > story there somewhere. [Needless to say, nothing derogatory was intended here - I was talking about the original GNAT investment, not whatever proprietary follow-on has gone on since by ACT or anyone else. By contrast, to my knowledge Win32Ada was 100% taxpayer funded, and IMHO ought to be a public resource. Allowing rights to an uninvolved 3rd party (Microsoft), seems completely nutty to me.] > By the way, the total amount of government money spent on > GNAT is far less than has been spent on other Ada > technologies that the government has directly and > indirectly funded, and most of those stay *completely* > proprietary. I don't think the fact that tax payers pay > for something has much to do with the tax payers getting > free use! I don't want to get into a protracted discussion on this since I have no special expertise in it and you are doubtless one of the top-ranking experts, but my gut instinct is that if something is 100% funded by tax dollars, it ought to be 100% in the control of the taxpayers or of their elected representatives, at least if the creator of the product has no intention to support and evolve it. I can see that an exception might be a flat-out grant where a priori there are no strings attached, such as for basic research. I'm reminded of ALS, a big fat waste of tax money if ever there was one (and how many of us had at least some peripheral involvement with THAT mess?) If I remember correctly, the government retained control of the resulting software and made it available on mag tape for something like $25, more or less cost of materials and shipping/handling. Or, well, maybe I'm wrong. -- Dave Wood, Aonix -- Product Manager, ObjectAda for Windows -- http://www.aonix.com