From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 14e27f,d4b3d171336fca98 X-Google-Attributes: gid14e27f,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,d4b3d171336fca98 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: f753e,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gidf753e,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: ell@access.digex.net (Ell) Subject: Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Date: 1998/10/14 Message-ID: <36280e37.12679492@news.erols.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 400840792 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <907918039.22235@isc.org> <8zPU1.660$zi4.293929060@newsreader.digex.net> <701226$h4v$1@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com X-Trace: autumn.news.rcn.net 908333238 25287 207.172.182.90 (14 Oct 1998 02:47:18 GMT) Organization: Universe Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: ell@access.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Oct 1998 02:47:18 GMT Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.ada,comp.object.corba,comp.software-eng,news.groups.news.announce.newsgroups Date: 1998-10-14T02:47:18+00:00 List-Id: crawley@dstc.edu.au (Stephen Crawley) wrote: >In article <8zPU1.660$zi4.293929060@newsreader.digex.net>, >Ell wrote: >>There's no excuse for dictatorship! > >It is my democratic right to vote for a "dictatorship" if I think >this is the best solution. > >>: When it comes to technology, a benevolent dictatorship often works a lot >>: better than a democracy... >> >>I totally disagree! > >Your opinion has been noted. [We'll send the thought police around >later to re-educate you :-)] > >Seriously, the problem with USENET news is that there is currently no >technology to allow the readership of a group implement policies to >ensure that the group suit their collective needs. Until such >technology is available, we have to rely on primitive (labor >intensive) mechanisms like human moderation, with all the risks that >this won't work very well. > >Meanwhile, I'm happy with a "dictator" moderator, not least because I >see examples where the model works VERY WELL (IMO); e.g. comp.risks. >If the dictator does a bad job, and is unwilling to move aside ... we >can always go back to comp.object and start again. If only for the fact that they intend on filling vacancies only through selection by moderators - though there is more - I would reject the proposal out of hand. I mean, I never thought that I would hear of people *willingly* accepting that. It boggles my mind that some people accept this. Both the notion and its acceptance are terrible are reprehensible, as I see it. I think that any organization of people should be moving the bar toward greater freedom and liberation, not away from it. Certainly you can have moderators regulate discussion even while voting for them annually, and having votes to fill vacancies (unless the vacancy is say within 60 days of the annual vote.) Elliott -- :=***=: VOTE NO TO MODERATION! :=***=: CRAFTISM SHOULD NOT USE USENET RESOURCES TO AVOID CRITICISM! MODERATORS SHOULD NOT HAVE LIFETIME TERMS! :=***=: Objective * Pre-code Modelling * Holistic :=***=: Hallmarks of the best SW Engineering Study Phony Crafite OO vs. Genuine OO: http://www.access.digex.net/~ell Copyright 1998 Elliott. exclusive of others' writing. may be copied without permission only in the comp.* usenet and bitnet groups.