From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,3893224d5acbca8b X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d901a50a5adfec3c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,9f0bf354542633fd X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public From: Terry Devine Subject: Re: Fortran or Ada? Date: 1998/10/05 Message-ID: <36194979.2FE3@mitre.org>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 398070223 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <36068E73.F0398C54@meca.polymtl.ca> <6u8r5o$aa4$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <360A3446.8AD84137@lmco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: MITRE Corp. Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: tdevine@mitre.org Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c Date: 1998-10-05T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Daniel Barker wrote: > > `In the language of everyday life it very often happens that the same word > signifies in two different ways - and therefore belongs to two different > symbols - or that two words, which signify in different ways, are > apparently applied in the same way in the proposition. > > `Thus the word "is" appears as the copula, as the sign of equality, and as > the expression of existence; "to exist" as an intransitive verb like "to > go"; "identical" as an adjective; we speak of SOMETHING but also of the > fact of SOMETHING happening. "That depends on what the definition of "is" is." -- William Jefferson Clinton > > `(In the proposition "Green is green" - where the first word is a proper > name and the last an adjective - these words have not merely different > meanings but they are DIFFERENT SYMBOLS.) > > `Thus there easily arise the most fundamental confusions (of which the > whole of philosophy is full). > > `In order to avoid these errors, we must employ a symbolism which excludes > them, by not applying the same sign in different symbols and by not > applying signs in the same way which signify in different ways. A > symbolism, that is to say, which obeys the rules of LOGICAL grammar - of > logical syntax. > > `(The logical symbolism of Frege and Russell is such a language, which, > however, does still not exclude all errors.) > > `In order to recognize the symbol in the sign we must consider the > significant use. > > `The sign determines a logical form only together with its logical > syntactic application. > > `If a sign is NOT NECESSARY then it is meaningless. That is the meaning of > Occam's razor.' > > - Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, propositions 3.323-3.328. > > (Capitals used in place of italics. Translation is the original 1922 > version, by Ogden, which had Wittgenstein's approval. Published in London > & New York by by Routledge; reprinted 1996.) > > If I may veer into another language, C - and thus justify adding another > news group to the `to' line - > > #include > main() > { > int a[100]; /* `a' means array */ > printf("%p\n", a); /* `a' means pointer */ > a = a + 1; /* ILLEGAL, since `a' means array again */ > } > > `a' here means two different things: > > (1) an array of 100 normal-width integers; > (2) a pointer to a normal-width integer (in fact, to the first integer in > an array of 100 such). > > To say that, in the call to printf(), the first thing is implicitly > converted to the second thing is to linguistically `work around' the basic > problem, that `a' has two meanings. Meaning (2) can also be expressed as > > &a[0] > > So, the example reveals two faults in the C language. Namely, that `a', as > a local variable in one function, can have two meanings; and also that one > of these meanings is may be expressed by either of two symbols. This is a > crying shame! Why does `a' have two meanings, when, given the possibility > of `&a[0]', one would have sufficed without reducing the functionality of > the language? > > The answer is historical, as revealed by an interesting paper, "The > Development of the C Language" by Dennis Ritchie, available from Dennis > Ritchie's home page, http://plan9.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/index.html. > > Daniel Barker, > Institute of Cell and Molecular Biology, > Swann Building, > King's Buildings, > Mayfield Road, > Edinburgh > EH9 3JR > UK