From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Biju Thomas Subject: Re: [WAYRTW?] (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Date: 1998/09/17 Message-ID: <360189FF.7A8075C@ibm.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 392197986 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35F6A611.2DD979FD@oma.com> <360095FF.6F82B396@oma.com> <6trq53$r9n$1@xs1.xs4all.nl> X-Notice: should be reported to postmaster@ibm.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined X-Complaints-To: postmaster@ibm.net X-Trace: 17 Sep 1998 22:13:34 GMT, 32.100.144.36 Organization: IBM.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: bijuthom@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-17T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Zane Lewkowicz wrote: > > The flaw? Meyer carelessly mixes the fundamental concepts of > object oriented programming with specific implementation > decisions and even trivial details, especially when such > details distinguish his own O-O language, Eiffel, from its > competitors. At times this juxtaposition of sound insights > with petty differentiation becomes almost comical, such as > when a Summary Of The Important Points From This Chapter > contains both "Don't confuse classes with objects, as some > would-be O-O gurus have done.", and "Compilation is controlled > by a configuration management language called 'Lace'.". > Well, Dr.Meyer is entitled to his owen discretion when writing a book. Do you believe that an author will be objective to him/her when writing a book? Take any book/paper published and look at the references section. If the topic of the book/paper has any relation to any publication of the author, it will appear in the references section. (I believe publications are not subject to anti-trust laws:-)) On the points raised, 'confusing classes with objects' contains some matter and is not related to Eiffel. I agree that the one about 'Lace' is implementation specific. Biju Thomas