From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ffce418d7a49585f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-09-20 03:53:22 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!news.hal.COM!decwrl!gatekeeper.us.oracle.com!barrnet.net!rational.com!kdm From: kdm@rational.com (Kent Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Vendor bashing? Sort of. Date: 19 Sep 1994 17:11:48 GMT Organization: Rational Software Message-ID: <35kgok$pni@rational.rational.com> References: <355o58$isa@felix.seas.gwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: puppy.rational.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: 1994-09-19T17:11:48+00:00 List-Id: Gregory Aharonian (srctran@world.std.com) wrote: [stuff deleted slamming Robert] : Each and every hour of a DoD contractor's employees day has : to be accounted for to some contract (unless he is a non-peon on overhead). This is *not* true. This may be what you think but all DoD contactors that I work with are more than willing to have people educated and they do not see any need to have this time billed against some contact. : So when I wanted to make a pitch to help one such company save money : by using some Ada software I had referenced in my databases, for anyone at : that company to sit in on a presentation I wanted to give, they would have to : get permission from their manager to charge to some DoD contract their spending : one hour to listen to me. In this case, the manager refused to do so, so : despite having a group of programmers interested in what I could offer for as : an Ada entrepreneur, I could not even get a chance to make my pitch. : Why did the manager refuse? As I said before, using my services would : have allowed them to save the taxpayers and the DoD lot of money on the : contract, but would have cut into the company's and manager's profits and : bonuses, under existing defense procurement regulations. So why bother : listening to a sales pitch, no matter how relevant. It is pure speculation on your part as to why the manager did not want to give permission for you to come in and make your pitch unless you actually talked to this manager and the manager stated this as the reason. I know Rational seldom has any problem with getting time to demo our products and services. To the best of my knowlege, we've never been told that we could not demo our products for the reasons you state. -- Kent Mitchell | One possible reason that things aren't Technical Consultant | going according to plan is ..... Rational Software Corporation | that there never *was* a plan!