From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: ell@access.digex.net (Ell) Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops) Date: 1998/08/31 Message-ID: <35ead1be.659708@news.erols.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 386477710 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6r1glm$bvh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6r9f8h$jtm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6renh8$ga7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rf59b$2ud$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rfra4$rul$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35DBDD24.D003404D@calfp.co.uk> <6sbuod$fra$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35f51e53.48044143@news.erols.com> <6sdiav$e0g$1@hirame.wwa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 904582086 4001 207.172.118.160 (31 Aug 1998 16:48:06 GMT) Organization: Universe Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: ell@access.digex.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-08-31T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: >"Robert Martin" writes: Matthew Heaney wrote: >> >>>For example, there's a pernicious myth that exiting (or returning) from >> >>>the middle of a loop is bad, and that the only proper way to write a >> >>>loop is to state the termination condition explicitly, as a predicate >> >>>appearing at the top of the loop. RCM wrote: >> >>Yes. That pernicious myth is called "structured programming". Elliott wrote: >> >Please cite even just a single structured programming text, or founder >> >where what you say here was asserted. > "Structured Programming", Dijkstra, Dahl, Hoare, Academic Press, 1972. p. > 16-23 "7. On Understanding Programs". > Actually this section says that there are two different kinds of > loops. one that is tested at the top; and another which is tested at > the bottom. But in all cases, the elements of structure programming > have a single entry and a single exit. A loop that exits in the > middle, violates this maxim. Please show me a Dijkstra, Dahle, Hoare quote that says "the elements of structure[d] programming have a single entry and single exit." Elliott -- :=***=: Objective * Pre-code Modelling * Holistic :=***=: Hallmarks of the best SW Engineering "The domain object model is the foundation of OOD." Check out SW Modeller vs SW Craftite Central : www.access.digex.net/~ell Copyright 1998 Elliott. exclusive of others' writing. may be copied without permission only in the comp.* usenet and bitnet groups.