From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,a498aa1404ef5d87 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: not_the-spam_xxiii@biogate.com (Dave Martin) Subject: Re: Why C++ is successful Date: 1998/07/29 Message-ID: <35bebe5f.95187031@netnews.msn.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 375908967 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35AE4621.2EBC7F6A@eiffel.com> <6p83vj$657$1@news.intellistor.com> <35B79E7D.6068DCDF@eiffel.com> <6pg7fg$qhi$1@news.interlog.com> <901533851.20058.0.nnrp-04.9e980ba3@news.demon.co.uk> <35be2a94.57352308@netnews.msn.com> <6plvgl$eaf$1@news-1.news.gte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-07-29T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: I certainly wasn't trying to attack ada and I hope it didn't come off that way. I was just relating the experiences that I had. Its true that many people use Ada and are quite happy to do so; and Ada-95 has added a lot to the language in an O-O context. We are surrounded by many DOD installations around here, and Ada usage was mandated by the DOD until recently. Many of the people I know were upset because they were told "you will use Ada" and many obviously biased studies were bandied about (the kind where it was obvious that the people conducting the study were told what result to come up with before they started the study). I'm sure you can find many such "studies" on just about any topic. I personally haven't learned Ada (83/95) yet, so I hesitate to say anything one way or the other about it, though I will admit to being influenced by my friends occasionally on the subject. I know many people who hate Ada, and I know there are many others who swear by it. I'm not sure I'll ever get around to learning Ada; Eiffel is my current "education" project. I just hope that people using whatever language for some project are using them from an informed position and choice; and not for "religious" reasons. I know someone who refused to move from C to C++ because of all that ickyness C++ added to C. sigh. I once got him to (reluctantly) admit that prototypes were a good thing, but thats about as far as he'll go. He also generally hates what ANSI/ISO did to C. Personally, for the last several years i've been trying to detect my own hidden assumptions and biases, and nullify them. I never want to turn into the old dog who can't learn new tricks or becomes closed- minded to something simply because its different. Unfortunately I haven't always been successful, but i'm trying. On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:56:44 -0700, Rakesh Malhotra wrote: [stuff about Ada's image and its good points deleted, see previous posting] <*> - Know Future