From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ADDR_WS, INVALID_MSGID,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: Biju Thomas <"Biju Thomas"> Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops) Date: 1998/09/16 Message-ID: <35FFE58C.5727@ibm.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 391749765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6rf59b$2ud$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rfra4$rul$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35DBDD24.D003404D@calfp.co.uk> <6sbuod$fra$1@hirame.wwa.com> <904556531.666222@miso.it.uq.edu.au> <6sgror$je8$3@news.indigo.ie> <6sh3qn$9p2$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6simjo$jnh$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35eeea9b.2174586@news.erols.com> <6sjj7n$3rr$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35f055a5.1431187@news.erols.com> <6sjnlu$83l$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6skfs7$2s6$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35F252DD.5187538@earthlink.net> <6t4dge$t8u$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6t5mtp$4ho$1@news.indigo.ie> X-Notice: should be reported to postmaster@ibm.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: postmaster@ibm.net X-Trace: 16 Sep 1998 16:21:33 GMT, 198.133.22.211 Organization: IBM.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: bijuthom@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Giovanni 8 wrote: > > > Gerry Quinn wrote: > >> adam wrote: > >> Sigh... does anyone *try* to write spaghetti code? > >> The thing is, someone who's inexperienced and hasn't read > >> enough code to know whether code is readable or not, is > >> certainly capable of writing unreadable, convoluted code > >> without using GOTO. > > > I agree - in fact I would argue that if you are carrying a > > flag for deciding when to exit, the flag is part of the > > flow of control - with all the potential pasta that entails. > > Spaghetti code is in the eye of the beholder. > > Some people find jumps or gotos, written in their own > particular style, to be much more elegant and clear > than the so-called control structures. Others really > like flags popping up in one place & then not being > seen through vast piles of listing until, layers removed, > they are used again (even in a different context with > different conceptual significance for the values of > the flag). I've seen people, brows furrowed, puzzled > over code that was the epitome of structured design, > who could follow the jumps of assembly language with > ease. Reminds me of what Dijkstra told about the effect of COBOL and BASIC on minds: "The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense." "It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC; as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration" Biju Thomas