From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: Charles Hixson Subject: Re: Which wastes more time? (Was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Date: 1998/09/06 Message-ID: <35F23CA9.56F448B6@earthlink.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 388352461 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6rfra4$rul$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35DBDD24.D003404D@calfp.co.uk> <6sbuod$fra$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6sebjr$b69$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6sff74$q0s@gurney.reilly.home> <6sh2j5$jnl$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35EC2E5A.16DB6CB1@bigfoot-.com> <6sjc0a$1lk$3@news.indigo.ie> <35EFB09E.15412933@s054.aone.net.au> <35f2bd98.40599408@news.erols.com> <35F06A58.F968BDE1@s054.aone.net.au> <35f48276.90997557@news.erols.com> <35F0C3C9.D1E56FF3@s054.aone.net.au> <6srh67$sj5$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35F1C0B9.8A50CEB0@s054.aone.net.au> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: Sun Sep 6 00:38:25 1998 Organization: Mandala Fluteworks Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: I haven't yet read that far into OOSC, so this is going to be arguing from a rather abstract understanding, but: Does his model of person include a corporation? Some cars are owned by non-human "PERSON"s. If a corporation owns a car, and assigns use of it to, say, the General Manager's Office (which, in practice) turns out to mean the General Manager, then is the habitual user-controller of the car the owner? I expect that any example given in OOSC will be an extremely simplified form that doesn't map in any fully formed way onto reality. Because of this, I don't expect that it is reasonable to expect that the "PERSON_ROLE" class would be introduced, UNLESS there was some particular pedagogical point that it was needed to solve. OOSC is a learning tool, and therefore presents a limited picture of the world with a focus on "easy to understand". (The library example in the earlier chapters wasn't very convincing, either, but it was a good tool for making points with).