From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Loryn Jenkins Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops) Date: 1998/09/05 Message-ID: <35F0B75E.F259FCE6@s054.aone.net.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 388062611 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35f23ce2.7649859@news.erols.com> <6snn1b$c90$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35ef7dff.24318728@news.erols.com> <35f79e53.98130474@news.erols.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news.mel.aone.net.au 904968067 4953 203.12.186.163 (5 Sep 1998 04:01:07 GMT) Organization: TekRite Pty Ltd Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: loryn@acm.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Sep 1998 04:01:07 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-05T04:01:07+00:00 List-Id: > Because as evidenced here, you will accept RCM's position without > facts simply because you have an ideological affinity, or other > non-valid reason to do so. Elliot. It may or may not surprise you. But there are many things that I agree with you on, and disagree with Robert. (eg I believe he tends to overstate the motivation for OO as dependency management. Whereas, for me, OO is more about conceptually modelling coherent sets of behaviours that can be assigned to a well-defined entity. Which, if I understand it right, is closer to your position than his.) But that has nothing to do with how I (and, I suspect, Patrick) deals with Robert. I believe you'll find we deal with courtesy. Just take a look at the discussion between myself and Matthew Heaney. We absolutely disagreed. But neither of us called names at each other. Loryn Jenkins PS: Who Patrick agrees or disagrees with has nothing to do with his proposed moderation duties. But when people simply name call, I hope he does return the post.