From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: Loryn Jenkins Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops) Date: 1998/09/05 Message-ID: <35F06D6A.91A3D34E@s054.aone.net.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 387993541 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6rf59b$2ud$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6sjnlu$83l$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6spia2$1s36$1@prime.imagin.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news.mel.aone.net.au 904949135 8539 203.102.238.26 (4 Sep 1998 22:45:35 GMT) Organization: TekRite Pty Ltd Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: loryn@acm.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Sep 1998 22:45:35 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-04T22:45:35+00:00 List-Id: > Humpty Dumpty had perfectly clear thoughts, but he didn't use the > agreed-to language, so his thoughts weren't clear to others. This is dubious at best. Although many linguists in the American Chomskyist school chould agree with you (that is, their dubious claim of the division between 'competence' and 'performance'). Outside of there, few linguists would agree with this philosophical position. It is much more to the point that language is an instrument which *construes reality*. It is quite inapropriate to claim that thoughts can be organised outside of the semiotic systems that construct it. Loryn Jenkins BA, Linguistics. Macqurie University. Sydney, Australia.