From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: "John G. Volan" Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops) Date: 1998/09/03 Message-ID: <35EF8B0C.8C59787D@sprintmail.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 387756576 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35ed3d4a.2378710@news.erols.com> <6sfqul$ggg$1@hirame. <6sidsq$e6c$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35EF6F89.7DA3DCC9@earthlink.net> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: Thu Sep 3 23:38:39 1998 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: johnvolan@sprintmail.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Charles Hixson wrote: > > In order for that to be an equivalently obvious form one would need to > adopt an indentation convention that caused the exit test to stand-out > as well as the top and the bottom of the loop do. Sure, why not? See my post on another branch of this thread (gads, such metaphor mixing!), describing a possible Eiffel extension that would satisfy your criterion ("Mid-Loop 'Until' Proposal"). > Probably not hard, > especially with colored-syntax editors (environments?), but not a > current standard. (Well, at least not one that I know.) > > Patrick Doyle wrote: > ... > > How would you feel about a loop...exit_when...end_loop structure? > > It has only one exit point. You could still add something to > > the end of every iteration by putting it before the exit_when. > > > > This seems pretty safe to me. Do you see any reason this would > > be less manageable than a top- or bottom-exit loop? I think the key question is whether one can devise a reasonable semantics for such a construct such that important principles like Design By Contract are upheld. (Again, cf. my "Mid-Loop 'Until' Proposal" post.) -- indexing description: "Signatures for John G. Volan" self_plug: "Ex Ada guru", "Java 1.1 Certified", "Eiffelist wannabe" two_cents: "Java would be even cooler with Eiffel's assertions/DBC, % %generics, true MI, feature adaptation, selective export, % %uniform access, expanded types, etc., etc..." class JOHN_VOLAN_SIGNATURE inherit SIGNATURE invariant disclaimer: not (opinion implies employer.opinion) end -- class JOHN_VOLAN_SIGNATURE