From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,a498aa1404ef5d87 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Jay Martin Subject: Re: Why C++ is successful Date: 1998/08/02 Message-ID: <35C42762.4F8D89C2@earthlink.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 377165803 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35AE4621.2EBC7F6A@eiffel.com> <6p83vj$657$1@news.intellistor.com> <35B79E7D.6068DCDF@eiffel.com> <6pg7fg$qhi$1@news.interlog.com> <901533851.20058.0.nnrp-04.9e980ba3@news.demon.co.uk> <35be2a94.57352308@netnews.msn.com> <6plvgl$eaf$1@news-1.news.gte.net> <35bebe5f.95187031@netnews.msn.com> <6pn9af$hqd$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> <35BF49E8.136D75C2@earthling.net> <35C371D1.2E42A046@earthlink.net> <35C3FAFD.DDA89121@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-08-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Matthew Heaney wrote: > > Jay Martin writes: > > > Look at the Ada Booch components, not a single "free" in the whole > > library. Surely, he Booch was expecting GC. > > This is incorrect. Booch did expect GC: "Unmanaged -> Automatic garbage collection is the responsibility of the underlying run time system and compiler." > His reason for not using Free is NOT because he was "expecting GC." He > explains in his book that he didn't use Unchecked_Deallocation because > it is non-portable. Which turned out to be a technical mistake, because I didn't remember a (non-embedded system) Ada compiler that did not implement "Unchecked_Deallocation". Imagine the ridicule from C programmers: "You can call malloc but you can't even call free!." > The Booch components had a very specific taxonomy. Only "unmanaged" > components expect a garbage collector. The "managed" forms do their own > garbage collection (using a storage manager, another component). Which excepting multi-tasking and fixed sized forms, made up for roughly half the Booch components, over a 100 component permutation banking on GC. Jay