From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,35b525f397b0e034,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-09-07 21:02:47 PST Path: nntp.gmd.de!xlink.net!slsv6bt!slbh01.bln.sel.alcatel.de!rcvie!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!zib-berlin.de!tfh-berlin.de!sun17!weberwu From: weberwu@tfh-berlin.de (Prof_Weber-Wulff) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Student views on Ada Date: 7 Sep 1994 14:01:38 GMT Organization: TFH-Berlin (Berlin, Germany) Message-ID: <34kh42$le5@sun24.tfh-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: sun17.tfh-berlin.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: 1994-09-07T14:01:38+00:00 List-Id: A collection of student comments on Ada (We use Ada as the first language): - A 3rd semester student commented that he has both C++ and Ada at home, but that he uses (Meridian) Ada when he wants to get something done fast - because when he finally gets it to compile it's usually right, as opposed to C++... - A 7th semester student looking over the shoulder of a 2nd semester student doing something whizzy with the Meridian graphics packages: "I can't believe you're doing that in Ada! I thought Ada was stupid and boring!" - The students in our department have started a little newspaper (and asked for permission to do so, boy in my student days we just DID things like that!). The front page article was "ADA, oder was?", (Ada or what?) and included a pro and a contra position. The pro article felt that our insisting that Ada was too good a language to be left to the military was okay, and even went so far as to say that using the language strengthens ones sense of responsibility - doing what you think is right despite what every one else says. The contra article felt that using Ada legitimizes the US American war machine, the technial aspects of the language have no relevance. The writer suspects that since the DoD issues the standard [little knowledge has he of Ada9X!] corrupt officials could misuse their power to unimaginably evil ends... and closes with the call to reject Ada thereby setting onesself against the desire for power and unreasonability... My comment to Meridian: I'm mad that they've stopped the student pricing for the DOS Ada. For 69 marks (when we ordered a class set) the students got an LRM and a compiler, and they used them at home. What better advertising for the language and the company?! -- Debora Weber-Wulff, Professorin fuer Softwaretechnik und Programmiersprachen snail: Technische Fachhochschule Berlin, FB Informatik, Luxemburgerstr. 10, 13353 Berlin, Germany email: weberwu@tfh-berlin.de