From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ca0b11ae1c9a00cb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Stanley R. Allen" Subject: Re: Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Date: 1998/03/03 Message-ID: <34FC52DF.6201@hso.link.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 330492114 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <34E7B551.115C289F@cs.utexas.edu> <34E8AA02.7ED447E0@cs.utexas.edu> <34E91572.CE9CEED2@cs.utexas.edu> <34EB634F.2EDF9B80@cs.utexas.edu> <34ED7AF9.20955F29@cl.cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: NASA, Kennedy Space Center Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-03-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Matthew Heaney wrote: > > [the sad history of anti-Ada statements by influential people] > What I want to know is: where are they now? Now that C++ is gaining ground in areas where Ada has some footholds (large, real-time, embedded, safety-critical), where are the articles and speeches by "big names" denouncing C++, the urban sprawl of programming languages? The folks who criticized Ada at the beginning because it didn't match their ideas of an "ideal" programming language, and whose comments helped to cramp the acceptance of the language, should consider whether C++ is a better match. A lot of those early comments by language researchers who "warned the committee about the bad path Ada is taking" sound suspiciously like academic sour grapes. "Those Ada proponents didn't incorporate *my* ideas into the programming language." Whaaaa! Their conclusions can be considered foregone. Well, they got their way -- Ada became marginalized. Nature, abhoring a vacuum, ushered in the era of C/C++. I find it hard to believe that their current silence about this result can be considered benign approval. I challenge any of the academics who criticized Ada for being "too complex" to come out in favor of C++ over Ada today. -- Stanley Allen mailto:s_allen@hso.link.com