From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: cyanide Subject: Drifting further off topic.... Date: 1998/02/10 Message-ID: <34DF30CC.36085976@stopspamiinet.net.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 323472111 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <34a991f0.2379476@news.diac.com> <68dm0i$brv1@news.fiberlink.net> <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net> <34B71B71.1EFDCAD8@ix.netcom.com> <34B8DC0F.BA0554DB@acm.org> <01bd1ebd$8580b9a0$b2684bc2@xzSys> <34BA520B.534F@mail.state.wi.us> <01bd2526$66b70fa0$d6d945cf@juddesk> <34c80bb5.39357256@news.vt.edu> <01bd284c$4b0b4fe0$c0f682c1@xhv46.dial.pipex.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "John G." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Unorganised Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-02-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: > Well, you might have argued about the use of computers to "prove" > mathematical theorems using a brute-force approach, e.g., the map > coloring theorem. The debate over what constitues a proof in human > terms is really quite fascinating. For example, if a computer "proves" > > a theorem which no human being could prove simply because of the sheer > > bulk of computation required, has that theorem been proven? How can we > > know? Are we redefining truth as a thing of consensus? Perhaps we will > > eventually define truth as something beyond the grasp of a mere human > being. Perhaps we will relegate truth to the machine. Hey, don't we > already do that? If you have time, you should read the science fiction "Gap Series" by Steven Donaldson. One of the characters is a guy called Hashi Lebwol, a man interested only in facts, to whom truth was inconsequential. Oliver White Remove "stopspam" to reply.