From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public From: GLE Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1998/02/03 Message-ID: <34D713F0.510@Go.To.Hell>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 321659276 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <67et6o$dql@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <67ktrg$ibk@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <883319809snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <68bt2p$d48@lotho.delphi.com> <34a991f0.2379476@news.diac.com> <68dm0i$brv1@news.fiberlink.net> <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net> <34B71B71.1EFDCAD8@ix.netcom.com> <34B8DC0F.BA0554DB@acm.org> <01bd1ebd$8580b9a0$b2684bc2@xzSys> <34BA520B.534F@mail.state.wi.us> <6alu5l$onm$1@owl.slip.net> <01bd2c2a$69b107a0$9f684bc2@xzSys> <01bd2c45$f7ff6f40$7261b693@HP5079Q> <34D0A9F7.4768@beyond-software.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: I am not very organized Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-02-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Wayne L. Beavers wrote: > I disagree. There really is no reason for a COBOL programmer working on > Accounts Payable applications to know how to shoot a 64 meg stand alone > dump of an MVS/ESA system in a hard loop or disabled wait. Why would a > COBOL programmer be interested in analyzing a GTF trace? Why would a > COBOL programmer examine CCW chains? No reason. ... > I know a fair amount about the internals of MVS and VM operating > systems. I can shoot dumps and trace tables well enough. What I can not > do is design business applications. I don't know much at all about > accounting, manufacturing, transportation, retail, finance, etc. I ... > Of course today the average systems programmer no longer has the skills > to shoot stand alone dumps. They just call IBM and get the fix and put Today the average systems programmer knowns nothing of the dinosaurs you cite, and we should be glad they are becoming extinct. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can tunefs, but you can't tune a fish ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - spammers, add us to your list: root@localhost postmaster@localhost webmaster@localhost abuse@localhost askbill@microsoft.com president@whitehouse.org