From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: Paul Van Bellinghen Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1998/01/31 Message-ID: <34D3A4A4.9E58315C@mhv.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 320933485 References: <67et6o$dql@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <67ktrg$ibk@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <883319809snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <68bt2p$d48@lotho.delphi.com> <34a991f0.2379476@news.diac.com> <68dm0i$brv1@news.fiberlink.net> <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net> <34B71B71.1EFDCAD8@ix.netcom.com> <34B8DC0F.BA0554DB@acm.org> <01bd1ebd$8580b9a0$b2684bc2@xzSys> <34BA520B.534F@mail.state.wi.us> <6alu5l$onm$1@owl.slip.net> <01bd2c2a$69b107a0$9f684bc2@xzSys> <01bd2c45$f7ff6f40$7261b693@HP5079Q> <6arori$jne1@odie.mcleod.net> X-Server-Date: 31 Jan 1998 22:21:53 GMT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7CB1EDFE75D39FC55FD0C9DE" Organization: MHVNet Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: pvanbell@mhv.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-01-31T22:21:53+00:00 List-Id: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7CB1EDFE75D39FC55FD0C9DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Successful > product teams tend to have a good mixture of skills, including > new CS grads, number crunching analysts, Computer Engineers and > reformed EE or ME engineers doing SWE along with the token current > EE and ME. It is amazing how much is in the software and how little > is in the hardware (reoccurring effort) for most products these days. Reading this got me thinking about the people I've worked with over the past 23 years that I've been in this field (I am also an embedded SE with a EE degree). I recall that in the 70s when CS majors were rare in schools, the SEs usually came from Math, Physics, or EE scholastic backgrounds. In the 80s, most were CS majors. Anyway, what I found was that the educational background rarely mapped to the success an SE had when working in the "Field". The "success correlation" had more to do with how well the individual could learn and adapt to the project at hand and the company's way of doing things. It seems that regardless of educational background, an SE is constantly in a position where he/she must learn new material - whether software or system related. Projects and languages are forever changing - even within the same company. I agree that an SE that stops learning is technically dead (like Engineers turned managers who become schedule experts). For an experienced SE, learning a new language is a snap - its just part of the job. That's why when I 'm out on job interviews, I laugh at these managers who worry so much about how many years of experience I have had in a specific language. That should be the least of their concern. --------------7CB1EDFE75D39FC55FD0C9DE Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Paul Van Bellinghen Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Paul Van Bellinghen n: Van Bellinghen;Paul org: Lockheed Martin Fairchild email;internet: pvanbell@mhv.net title: Staff Analyst note: WebPage: www.mhv.net/~pvanbell x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------7CB1EDFE75D39FC55FD0C9DE--