From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: "Charles W. Hall" Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1998/01/30 Message-ID: <34D22794.1DEE0535@platinum.brooks.af.mil>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 320641869 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6at330$7uj$1@mainsrv.main.nc.us> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: 648th CCSS/SC - Brooks AFB Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-01-30T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Having worked with assembly code, operating systems internals, and done high level programming, I don't think it is relevant for programmers to know these sort of things anymore. There is no reason to program in assembler directly anymore except for highly specialized cases. The internals of generated code have nothing to do with designing a correctly running program in FORTRAN, COBOL, C, or anyother high level language. The operating system software is designed by experts to properly handle the compiled code and to perform tasks as paging, swapping, and scheduling. These are not the domain of the programmer. Criticizing a programmer for not knowing the internals of the operating system is like criticizing an automobile owner for not understanding the internals of the car's motor. It is not necessary for successful operation of the car or computer system. Charles Hall scott@softbase.com wrote: > coryb@magmacom.com wrote: > > > I don't expect programmers to learn engineering anytime soon, but > there > > is one big problem I do have with most programmers -- they are > ignorant of > > assembly code and the internals of generated code, runtime systems, > > operating systems, etc. > >