From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: The Goobers Subject: Re: Philosophers Date: 1998/01/29 Message-ID: <34D120D3.6B18@erols.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 320425815 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <67et6o$dql@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <6ao78n$52r@mrpibb.eng.umd.edu> To: "Warren B. Focke" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@erols.com X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 886120714 21612 207.172.132.119 (30 Jan 1998 00:38:34 GMT) Organization: BudNy Organisation Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: docdwarf@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-01-29T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Warren B. Focke wrote: > > The Goobers said: > > > >'Scientists'? What are those... oh, wait a minute, I see... you mean > >'natural philosophers'! > > > >(For the unaware... up until the late 18th century what we now call > >'scientists' were called 'natural philosophers'. For the aware... muse > >over the difference between 'philos sophos' and 'scire') > > > > What most people call scientists, anyway. > > I'll argue that a natural philosopher studies "nature", while a > scientist seeks truth through the scientific method. You realise, of course, this assumes both that there is 'truth' and that said 'truth' can be found via the scientific method... since reproducible results are the hallmark of scientific method this makes 'random truth' an imposibility. (Not that this *means* anything, of course... but don't it sure sound purty?) > Orthogonal issues, really. Oh, so you come here with... axes to grind? > Many scientists are natural philosophers. > Appallingly few natural philosophers are scientists. I haven't met enough of either to be able to generate such a conclusion. DD