From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: Highlander Consulting Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1998/01/10 Message-ID: <34B71B71.1EFDCAD8@ix.netcom.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 314579873 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <67et6o$dql@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <882757510snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <67ktrg$ibk@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <883319809snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <68bt2p$d48@lotho.delphi.com> <34a991f0.2379476@news.diac.com> <68dm0i$brv1@news.fiberlink.net> <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Netcom X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jan 09 10:56:21 PM PST 1998 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-01-09T22:56:21-08:00 List-Id: Dan wrote: > > Words of caution > > - you will never be respected (and rightly so) > > - it doesn't pay much (because you'll be competing with people with no > > degrees and non-Computer Science degrees who are self taught, and the > people > > doing the hiring don't value the process of software engineering). I have no love of VB, but I have to respond to the idea that people who are self-taught aren't that great. I have a PhD......in analytical chemistry. However, somehow, I was able to fool that tiny little company--Boeing--into offering me a job in software development. Can you tell me why-when I don't have a CS degree-that I was offered a job?? I have to say that, although I think that taking classes about data structures, databases, and many other programming paradigms, I don't think that a degree in CS is that necessary to make a good programmer. The ability to analyze a problem, break it down into its component parts, and address each small problem separately to acheive a common goal is more important than learning a particular language. Sure, learning C or C++ is very helpful, but displaying the ability to learn *any* language to solve any problem is the thing that makes companies want to hire you. A degree is important, but only to display one's ability to learn and be motivated. Trust me, I landed a job with a chemistry degree. I think that the level of my degree--not the subject--made the difference. I have proven my aptitude for problem solving. Programming is only a translation step after that. Robert Herrick