From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a146,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fa0ae,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa0ae,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: Patricia Shanahan Subject: Re: Which language pays most? Smalltalk, not C++ nor Java. Date: 1997/12/30 Message-ID: <34A92EC7.8AA616F9@acm.org>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 311380186 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199712121931.LAA25389@sirius.infonex.com> <67iipp$ktj$1@darla.visi.com> <882756127snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <34A14C27.57C0@min.net> <67rjb3$pfb$1@brie.direct.ca> <34A50CAA.54AA@netup.cl> <34A7B45C.403B@min.net> <01bd147e$11496760$6a28b4cf@carla.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Who? Me? Organized? Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.ada,comp.edu Date: 1997-12-30T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jeffrey Templon wrote: > > "Alicia Carla Longstreet" writes: > > > No the language is *not* defined by any single compiler, neither is it > > defined by any piece of paper. A language is defined by usage. A > > combination of compilers and the standard. > > I'd guess this opinion is generated by doing the majority of one's > work on the same platform, possibly even using the same development > tools, whenever you use C. ... I sometimes think that every programmer should be required to port a large program to its second platform before doing any new code. Preferably, the first platform should differ in word size, endianness, and general software heritage (e.g. UNIX vs. MSWindows vs. VMS) from the new target. There is nothing quite like this experience for an enhanced appreciation the value of standards. Patricia