From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: steve Subject: Re: Which language pays most 17457 -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1997/12/18 Message-ID: <3499CCC4.A4C37C38@seasoned-software.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 308718417 References: <199712121931.LAA25389@sirius.infonex.com> <349745D3.F4AA0460@seasoned-software.com> <34994D43.6858@ici.net> <01bd0c0b$53cc1860$26db45cf@juddesk> <67ccvl$iqj$1@darla.visi.com> <67comb$94o@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <3498B5A6.C404C703@seasoned-software.com> <67dc5k$o02@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> <34994C79.504D2881@seasoned-software.com> <67et6o$dql@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Giles Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------624AD3ED0BD9D10913928EA5" Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-12-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------624AD3ED0BD9D10913928EA5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James Giles wrote: > steve wrote in message <34994C79.504D2881@seasoned-software.com>... > > > > > >James Giles wrote: > ... > >> There's no excuse for this attitude > >> today - except that the vendors of systems have noticed that > >> UNIX never failed in popularity because of these weaknesses. > >> Bill Gates owes a lot to UNIX, if nothing else: for the pervasiveness > >> of the attitude that the system *needn't* be secure, robust, and > >> efficient. > > > >And windows with its DLLS is? What of the security problems in IE4? ... > > Exactly what I said. Bill Gates (Slick Willie West) has learned his > lessons well. He'd never have got away with it if UNIX hadn't set the > stage. He observed that people's reaction to problems with UNIX > was not to demand fixes, but to hire 'systems administrators' and > 'programmer analysts' to carry on continued maintenence. He just > figured to build-in the same complexities and flaws in his own > systems, and then corner the market on maintenence and upgrades. > To have surpassed UNIX in this regard is no surprise, give that > the lesson was clearly understood. ACTUALLY, UNIX is MORE stable than WINDOWS. Just basing that on a few dozen systems I have seen at various sites, articles, and newsgroups.1 > If a *truly* robust, secure, and efficient system were available, most > of those with the job titles I mentioned above (and a lot of others) > would be out of work. The ratio of installed systems to system > maintenence personel should be about the same as the ratio > of vehicles on the road to the number of auto mechanics: 500 to > 1000 (or higher). ACTUALLY, the average car seems too much like Windows! 8-( > -- > J. Giles > Ricercar Software --------------624AD3ED0BD9D10913928EA5 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for steve Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: steve n: ;steve org: SEASONED SOFTWARE email;internet: steve@seasoned-software.com note: notes would be here! x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------624AD3ED0BD9D10913928EA5--