From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: Alicia Carla Longstreet Subject: Re: Which language pays most 17457 -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1997/12/18 Message-ID: <34994D43.6858@ici.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 299371511 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199712121931.LAA25389@sirius.infonex.com> <66sfln$uac@lotho.delphi.com> <3498315B.144B@pseserv3.fw.hac.com> <349745D3.F4AA0460@seasoned-software.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: carla@ici.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: The Computer Solution Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-12-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: steve wrote: > > Wes Groleau wrote: > > > > Mix wrote: > > > >hich language will pay top 17457 in the long run? > > > > If you are truly not able to learn several languages, then--for > > "the long run"--you need to learn a language that endures - Cobol, > > Fortran, Ada, even (shudder) C. Not a fad language like C++ or > > Java. Java is certainly superior to C, but at present, there's > > no guarantee that it will still be widely used three years from now. > > > > I find it humorous that the original poster was smart enough to ask > > users of eight languages, but some of the replies assume C++ and > > Java are the only options! > > AHHHH, We DIDN'T assume! The subject INDICATES it! > PERSONALLY, I say that C should be learned almost last. If you learn > C++, that should be learned AFTER C! BASIC is a winner for the first > language. BASIC should *NEVER* under any circumstances be taught to first time programmers. It is the worst possible language to use to teach programming. This tirade does not apply to the various modular languages, like Visual Basic, that are not really BASIC but use Basic in their names. C is actually a good first langauge. The set of keywords is small so the instructor can concentrate on concepts like data types, structured programming, modularity, encapsulation and data hiding,and algorithms rather on a thousand and one commands needed to do all of the above. A beginner needs only and for the first semester, and 60% of the functions in these can be safely ignored. That leaves less than 100 keywords that the beginner needs to learn. Secondly there is absolutely no reason to learn C before C++. If you do not need to learn C go right ahead and just fucus on C++ and ignore C. The idea of learning C first is based on the myth that C is a subset of C++. > COBOL, in case your curious, would be closer to basic, but come AFTER > it(unless you choose not to learn basic). COBOL is a dying langauge (although it may take years to die). Learning COBOL is learning the past. right now, because of Y2K issues, COBOL is paying EXTREMELY well, but anybody starting out now to learn COBOL will likely miss the big bucks associated with Y2K. -- **************************************************************** What is the speed of dark? When you're sending someone Styrofoam, what do you pack it in? Why are there Braille signs on drive-up ATM's? How come you never hear about gruntled employees? I have an answering machine in my car. It says "I'm home now. But leave a message and I'll call when I'm out." ========================================= Alicia Carla Longstreet carla@ici.net ========================================= READ THE FAQ for more information: C-FAQ ftp sites: ftp://ftp.eskimo.com or ftp://rtfm.mit.edu Hypertext C-FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html