From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: steve Subject: Re: Which language pays most 17457 -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1997/12/17 Message-ID: <3498CD9A.B68CB151@seasoned-software.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 308497954 References: <199712121931.LAA25389@sirius.infonex.com> <01bd0c0b$53cc1860$26db45cf@juddesk> <67ccvl$iqj$1@darla.visi.com> <34988B10.40F82420@seasoned-software.com> <67d00a$bqc$1@brie.direct.ca> To: kaz@cafe.net Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B96AB2BDC76F125A4C75C9D7" MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-12-17T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B96AB2BDC76F125A4C75C9D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kaz Kylheku wrote: > In article <34988B10.40F82420@seasoned-software.com>, > steve wrote: > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >--------------31D32D01009BB90DC2E214FF > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > >Peter Seebach wrote: > > > >> In article <01bd0c0b$53cc1860$26db45cf@juddesk>, > >> Judson McClendon wrote: > There is NO > >direct correlation to any other language, and the only way to figure them > >out(other than LEARNING from some other source) is by trial and error on a > >computer! > > I found C to be completely transparent and obvious, with a marvellous syntax. > That same year, I independently found a C programming job in which I developed > some DOS utilities that shipped. Just wait.... > Prior to that I came from a modest background consisting of Pascal, 6502 and > 8088 assembly language BASIC plus a little bit of Fortran 77 from a course I > took previously. Obviously, you weren't a beginner at programming! 8-) > >If you are fully serious and correct about your understanding C, it was NOT > >because you figured it out by looking at it! > > I don't know about Seebs, but I had help from a great book by Kernighan and > Ritchie Same here! One of the smallest, yet most concise and respected, books ever written! If only they had similar books for the languages of today. Heck, It was almost a PAMPHLETT! I wouldn't have taken it so seriously if it wasn't so highly respected!It is ALSO an "OTHER SOURCE" like I alluded too. I doubt you would have hade the luck with the language without something like that. That isn't saying that you are lacking in intelligence, but that C is NOT immediately readable by anyone without SOME help. > . I had absolutely no problems sorting out the pointer and array > issues immediately; I still don't understand what the fuss is about. Well, I DID have some problems(although most WERE mistakes because I wasn't use to it), and many others do. --------------B96AB2BDC76F125A4C75C9D7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for steve Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: steve n: ;steve org: SEASONED SOFTWARE email;internet: steve@seasoned-software.com note: notes would be here! x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------B96AB2BDC76F125A4C75C9D7--