From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b446a49184d9e9e0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: munck@Mill-Creek-Systems.com (Robert Munck) Subject: Re: Why it was a bad idea to drop The Mandate. Date: 1997/12/12 Message-ID: <349166bd.69563098@news.mindspring.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 297594118 References: <97120812101591@psavax.pwfl.com> <348F14AE.7AA5@gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Server-Date: 12 Dec 1997 16:59:09 GMT Reply-To: munck@acm.org Organization: Mill Creek Systems LC Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-12-12T16:59:09+00:00 List-Id: On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:05:07 -0500, gwinn@res.ray.com (Joe Gwinn) wrote: >... the Mandate is now yesterday's war. But the military always fights yesterday's war today. Just look at the huge effort they're putting into preparing for Desert Storm. More to the point of CLA, the original reason for the Ada effort, proliferation of languages and the difficulty of maintaining systems that need old versions of compilers running on old hosts, is still with us. Even as we speak (type), systems in which the long-gone program manager invented a flimsy excuse to use C or C++ are in horrible trouble because their compilers are obsolete, are no longer supported, and the language definition has changed. PMs who were "forward-thinking" enough to use Java are suffering from the continual changes in the language and support systems and beginning to suspect that Java is little more than a flash in the pan. The reason I was suprised that they dropped the Mandate was that it was such a clear admission that the DoD is unable to maintain any semblance of internal discipline. It's especially disconcerting that Emmett Paige had to do it. Bob Munck Mill Creek Systems LC