From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: "Spaceman Spiff!" Subject: Re: Your english sucks, mine is better. Date: 1997/11/27 Message-ID: <347DFDA1.460F@flash.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 293258747 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <347C92F0.152B@mWilden.com> <65k6jg$e6b$2@NNTP.MsState.Edu> <347DEBB2.5B6A@mWilden.com> Reply-To: csweber@flash.net Organization: Me! Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1997-11-27T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Mark Wilden wrote: > > Billy Chambless wrote: > > > > The goals don't have to be all that opposed. Enlightened managers realise > > that happy, fulfilled employees are much more productive. Enlightened > > employees realise that success for the company *can* mean success for > > them. (of course, the more enlightened management is, the more "success > > for the company" equates to "success for the employee".) > > There has to be a balance between employee wages and owner profits. To > at least some degree, if you increase one you must decrease the other. > Both want slices from the same pie. Two things come to mind here: 1> Companies are usually not that concerned with employee wages, as they are concerned with _Shareholder Return_ Now, look at the radical movements in the market, and you can see that it's mostly immediate gradification which control stock price. High level Managers have developed a system to protect themselves after short-sighted cuts have burned up any extra margins they generate (which yeild the immediate gradification demand of the stock market). It's called the "Golden Parachute" The last company I worked for used up 5 CEO's in 3 years, each time one bailed out, they figured they needed to up the ante to get the next one. Guess where in the pie that money came from. Now the company is gone. 2> The other thing is a quote from Dilbert: "The companies woes are your fault, not managements. Do you realize how much you could gain personally be making the company a success?" "I'd get a nice plaque in a plastic frame" "Yeah, I was hoping you didn't know" -Scotty