From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID, PLING_QUERY,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Alan E & Carmel J Brain Subject: Re: How big is an int? (was: Yet another stupid language war (was: ... the only languages you need!!)) Date: 1997/11/21 Message-ID: <34767515.5253@dynamite.com.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 291192082 References: <64fbr2$76k$1@route1.mdrf.france3.fr> <879901314snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <3473B088.3227@dynamite.com.au> <64ve5n$c6m$1@helios.crest.nt.com> <3474C1F0.365A@dynamite.com.au> <6527n9$340@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net> Organization: @home Reply-To: aebrain@dynamite.com.au Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1997-11-21T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Craig Franck wrote: > It is this elitest mentality that may put some people off; however, > claming you are persecuted and shunned solely because of your choice > of programming language is pushing it. I didn't mean me personally.. people shun me because of bad breath, not because I program in Ada. (I 'spose I better include a :-) for the humour impaired ). No, I meant things like: > I know the STC is dropping Ada tracks, but I was unpleasantly > surprised to receive a call from a track coordinator yesterday telling > me that a proposed repeat of my Tri-Ada'97 panel titled "Software > Engineering Plan Reviews -- Better or Worse for Ada than the Mandate?" > was requested to shorten the title to just "Software Engineering Plan > Reviews." ... > Then I asked if all submissions with "Ada" in the title were getting > similar requests. The track coordinator thought so. Also: (after the decision by Mr Page to no longer mandate Ada for the DoD) > I was in the > >office of the CEO of one well-known DoD > >contractor recently who said, "Get with it > >Richard. Ada is dead, dead, dead." His > >company has pulled out of the Ada > >marketplace entirely. Also: >One Academic institution (not mine, thank God!)has bowed to student >demand, and CS1 is now going to be taught using C++ instead of Ada as a >first language. Little things like that. -- aebrain@dynamite.com.au <> <> How doth the little Crocodile | Alan & Carmel Brain| xxxxx Improve his shining tail? | Canberra Australia | xxxxxHxHxxxxxx _MMMMMMMMM_MMMMMMMMM abrain@cs.adfa.oz.au o OO*O^^^^O*OO o oo oo oo oo By pulling MAERKLIN Wagons, in 1/220 Scale