From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10261c,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 10c950,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c950,public From: "Charles R. Lyttle" Subject: Re: ADA and Pascal work, C,C++, and Java are the only lheadaches you need!! Date: 1997/11/06 Message-ID: <3462889F.625B4D36@flash.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 288181980 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <34566fe9.447229@news.mindspring.com> <345673af.1413708@news.mindspring.com> <3456b9f3.0@news.eznet.net> <3456e71b.3833189@news.mindspring.com> <34591365.7E53@gsg.eds.com> Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso,comp.lang.pascal.misc Date: 1997-11-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: John Stevens wrote: > On 06 Nov 1997 20:48:26 +0100, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > >>>>>> "John" == John Stevens writes: > > > >John> The one huge advantage C++ has over Ada, is that C++ is at least > >John> semi-object oriented. Ada isn't. > > > >Looks like you're unaware of the '95 revision of the Ada language... > > I've looked at the new standard. > > My Ada specific programming experience was with the previous standard > release. > > I do not consider Ada to be an object oriented programming language. > > Note that you write OO *programs* in almost any language. I've done > OO programs in C. But to be an OO programming language, it isn't > sufficient to hack in some neat new stuff. > > I may, in fact, be impossible to create anything other than a semi-OO > language, or at best, a Hybrid OO language, with out starting from > a blank slate. > > John S. Ada was not an OO language. It was Object Based. Quiet a difference and the difference was deliberate. Many of the OO constructs make any big appliation "brittle" and reduce safety. I am not fully convienced that all the Ada95 changes were a good idea, but they do make it more Object Oriented and it is still a lot better than C++. Have you noticed that as time goes by, Ada looks more like C++ and C++ looks more like Ada? I mean Templates for pity sake. -- Russ Lyttle email : lyttlec@mail.flash.net