From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: "David A. Frantz" Subject: Re: ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Date: 1997/11/02 Message-ID: <345cfcbd.0@news.eznet.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 287430300 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <36984222@NEWS.SAIC.COM> <345A83CA.CD776C91@flash.net> <63fl3r$d5c$1@news.luth.se> <345B7A48.F32E4924@flash.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Reply-To: "David A. Frantz" <_wizard@eznet.net> Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy Date: 1997-11-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Charles R. Lyttle wrote in message <345B7A48.F32E4924@flash.net>... >NOSPAM_f93-eaa@sm.luth.se wrote: > >> Charles R. Lyttle wrote: >> >> >For real programmers all this "My language can beat your language" is trash. >> >> I disagree. In general, Eiffel is far superior to C++ as a language, for >> example. Sadly, C++ has gained more industry acceptance, and thus it has >> more tools, compilers e t c. MS-DOS also gained more acceptance than NeXT >> Step, but MS-DOS was, in general, inferior to NeXT Step. >> >> -- >> >> Erik Alapaeae >> email: NOSPAM_f93-eaa@sm.luth.se > >As you know about Eiffel, you are probably one of the more experienced people. >Please understand that I am really talking to the newer guys. > >I do hope that Eiffel and Java win out and C++ dies a well deserved death. But >in some cases, even though C++ is not as robust (big laugh) as Eiffel, it is >often the choice for the reasons you stated. If life safety is involved Eiffel >or Ada are the only way to go. If low up-front cost is the ruling factor, then >C++ under some MS operating system is about the only thing available. Be >flexible, learn more than one language, and do software engineering instead of >"programming". > >-- > >Russ Lyttle > >email : lyttlec@mail.flash.net > > > I would agree that to achieve low up front cost a microsoft platform would have to be chosen. But C++ has as many problems there as anywhere else why not choose Visual Basic for a Win * platform. dave