From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: Nick Leaton Subject: Re: ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Date: 1997/11/03 Message-ID: <345DCA0E.1F886632@calfp.co.uk>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 286758592 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <36984222@NEWS.SAIC.COM> <345A83CA.CD776C91@flash.net> <63fl3r$d5c$1@news.luth.se> <345B7A48.F32E4924@flash.net> Reply-To: nickle@pauillac X-NNTP-Posting-Host: calfp.demon.co.uk [158.152.70.168] To: "Charles R. Lyttle" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy Date: 1997-11-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Charles R. Lyttle wrote: > > NOSPAM_f93-eaa@sm.luth.se wrote: > > > Charles R. Lyttle wrote: > > > > >For real programmers all this "My language can beat your language" is trash. > > > > I disagree. In general, Eiffel is far superior to C++ as a language, for > > example. Sadly, C++ has gained more industry acceptance, and thus it has > > more tools, compilers e t c. MS-DOS also gained more acceptance than NeXT > > Step, but MS-DOS was, in general, inferior to NeXT Step. > > > > -- > > > > Erik Alapaeae > > email: NOSPAM_f93-eaa@sm.luth.se > > As you know about Eiffel, you are probably one of the more experienced people. > Please understand that I am really talking to the newer guys. > > I do hope that Eiffel and Java win out and C++ dies a well deserved death. But > in some cases, even though C++ is not as robust (big laugh) as Eiffel, it is > often the choice for the reasons you stated. If life safety is involved Eiffel > or Ada are the only way to go. If low up-front cost is the ruling factor, then > C++ under some MS operating system is about the only thing available. Be > flexible, learn more than one language, and do software engineering instead of > "programming". http://www.eiffel.com/products/linux/index.html At least one vendor of Eiffel compilers provides a low up-front cost at $69.95 or ($99.95 with all the manuals and CD). This is for personal non corporate use, and is not crippled. -- Nick