From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Charles R. Lyttle" Subject: Re: ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Date: 1997/11/01 Message-ID: <345B7A48.F32E4924@flash.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 287280553 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <36984222@NEWS.SAIC.COM> <345A83CA.CD776C91@flash.net> <63fl3r$d5c$1@news.luth.se> Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy Date: 1997-11-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: NOSPAM_f93-eaa@sm.luth.se wrote: > Charles R. Lyttle wrote: > > >For real programmers all this "My language can beat your language" is trash. > > I disagree. In general, Eiffel is far superior to C++ as a language, for > example. Sadly, C++ has gained more industry acceptance, and thus it has > more tools, compilers e t c. MS-DOS also gained more acceptance than NeXT > Step, but MS-DOS was, in general, inferior to NeXT Step. > > -- > > Erik Alapaeae > email: NOSPAM_f93-eaa@sm.luth.se As you know about Eiffel, you are probably one of the more experienced people. Please understand that I am really talking to the newer guys. I do hope that Eiffel and Java win out and C++ dies a well deserved death. But in some cases, even though C++ is not as robust (big laugh) as Eiffel, it is often the choice for the reasons you stated. If life safety is involved Eiffel or Ada are the only way to go. If low up-front cost is the ruling factor, then C++ under some MS operating system is about the only thing available. Be flexible, learn more than one language, and do software engineering instead of "programming". -- Russ Lyttle email : lyttlec@mail.flash.net