From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public From: Charles Hixson Subject: Re: Current Ada strengths - was Re: ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Date: 1997/10/30 Message-ID: <3458BB80.986951D7@earthling.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 286028874 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <635csg$2eu$1@news2.alpha.net> <635u6q$4tk$1@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> <345881C4.640998A4@horvath.com> To: Bob Horvath Organization: None Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy Date: 1997-10-30T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Bob Horvath wrote: > Steve Ropa wrote: > > /* snip */ > I have often wondered the same thing. I head people talk about IDEs and > coming from a vi/make environment, I wonder what I am missing, if anything. > Perhaps these are two different things. > > It seems to me that if you know language, you don't need an IDE. And if you > need an IDE, then you don't know the language. Wizards are excellent tools for doing frequent tasks with lots of details. One shouldn't NEED a wizard, but they can sure speed thing up. They also, if well done, considerably decrease debugging time. In a good system the wizard will generate the code, and surround it with markers. As long as you don't remove the markers, the wizard will expect to be able to parse and regenerate the code freely (in case you edit the "screen image"). Once you decide to get into the details, you just remove the markers, and then you can edit the code as desired. This can be LOTS faster than creating everything from scratch, and IF the purpose is to design a visual image, then a visual design editor definitely the best way to go. -- Charles Hixson charleshixson@earthling.net (510) 464-7733 or chixso@mtc.dst.ca.us