From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10261c,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 10c950,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c950,public From: tmt@panix.com Subject: Re: Ada, Pascal, Eiffel and others Date: 1997/10/30 Message-ID: <34589d24.8269099@news.panix.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 285980086 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <34566fe9.447229@news.mindspring.com> <345673af.1413708@news.mindspring.com> <638ka4$qrd$2@news.luth.se> <3457F230.2C75@cs.adfa.oz.au> Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso,comp.lang.pascal.misc Date: 1997-10-30T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:34:24 +1100, Alan Brain wrote: >NOSPAM_f93-eaa@sm.luth.se wrote: >> >> John Black wrote: >> >ADA and Pascal are two of the most useless inventions Man has ever >> >wasted space on this planet with. These languages are hard to learn, >> >have zero applications, and people who only know these languages can >> >only find jobs at Taco Bell! Smart programmers spend their time >> >learning only C, C++, and Java in that order. Apparently you havn't tried TMT Pascal. Check it out on www.tmt.com Also please not that average debugging time for a Pascal Program is about 1/4 what it is with C. This "secret" is known, but apparently not as well known as it might be. >> >> Are you kidding?!? One of Pascal:s strengths is that the language >> ENFORCES sound programming habits. C++, on the other hand, is based >> on the philosophy that no programming paradigm is better than another. >> C++ perhaps has the advantage of being more important than Pascal in >> the industry, but that is changing more and more when people realize >> that other languages often make it possible to deliver code faster, >> code that has fewer bugs and is easier to maintain and extend. >> >> I like Java, Pascal and Eiffel. > >In which case, may I ask you to spend some of your time having a squizz >at Ada? The Lovelace turorial via http://www.adahome.com for example. I >just wish there was a tutorial this good for Eiffel. > >-- >Not the Australian Dairy Farmers Association, > the Australian Defence Force Academy. >aebrain@dynamite.com.au abrain@cs.adfa.oz.au