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From: Nat Pryce <np2@doc.ic.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: ADA and Pascal SUCK, C,C++,
 and Java are the only languages you need!!
Date: 1997/10/29
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Date: 1997-10-29T00:00:00+00:00
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Shombe Kroll wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone, I hate to say it but my sentiments are with Mr. Black to a
> small degree.  

I'm trying to understand your thought processes...

> My first programming class in college was in ADA and I found
> it very difficult to learn because of the lack of documentation and help
> aids for the language.  That  forced me to rely on my Professor for help
> which unfortunately was like pulling teeth.  The lack of being able to
> obtain outside sources from my local computer store ie : "ADA for Dummies"
> left me with a feeling of complete frustration while I spent the semester
> copying and reediting code from my fellow struggling classmates in order to
> pass the course.

Hmm... so Ada is crap because your teacher is not helpful and your
nearest
bookstore has a small selection of books?  Did you ever think of
*ordering*
a good book on Ada?

> However, struggling with ADA did give me an appreciation for the process of
> writing source code, and I have found that the fundamentals that I learned
> with ADA are applicable to me as I learn C++.  <-- By the way this time I am
> writing my own code),

So, you think that C++ is good because you have already learnt the
basics of 
programming?

Have you ever considered that *programming* is difficult?  Whether you
learn 
in Ada or C++, there is a learning curve to climb.  Once you have
understood 
the principles then any language becomes easier to learn.  You might
very well
have learnt the languages the other way round, in which case you would
be
on the opposite side of this flame-fest :-)

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