From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public From: "Charles R. Lyttle" Subject: Re: ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Date: 1997/10/28 Message-ID: <34567BD3.D451C6CE@flash.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 285660205 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <635csg$2eu$1@news2.alpha.net> Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy Date: 1997-10-28T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: --------------108E80454C4234ACA219AC32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Ropa wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Kenneth W. Sodemann wrote: > > > > > > 4.) Many of the Ada projects that I have worked on would have been much > > more difficult, or down right impossible, to manage in C or C++ (I have not > > done large scale development (or even testing) of anything written in Java, > > so I cannot comment on that). Add to that the fact that for certain types > > of projects, you also get a lower cost of development and (especially) > > maintenance, a tendency for less bugs, etc. > > > > Of course, if you are mostly writing Windows apps, then VC++ is a lot better > > environment than _anything_ you are going to get for Ada (at least at this > > time). Then again, we are coming back to "use the right tool for the right > > job", and right now, VC++ or VB (or maybe even Java) is often the right tool > > for that job (though Ada is making some in roads there, but the tools are > > not quite on par with VC++ yet (IMHO)). > > > > I hate to keep a thread going that started with such an inane comment(see > subject) but *your* points were very well articulated, and lead me to a > question. > As you said, it all boils down to the right tool for the right job. What > types of jobs are Ada best suited for? I got into development through self > learning, so I never really had the benefit of experiencing a lot of > different languages. > > Thanks > Steve I find Ada best for really big jobs (1_000_000 or more lines) with lots of formal methodologies and a need for high reliability. I hope Java will fill the under 1_000_000 spot one day soon. -- Russ Lyttle email : lyttlec@mail.flash.net --------------108E80454C4234ACA219AC32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Ropa wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Kenneth W. Sodemann wrote:

<snip very good points>
>
> 4.)  Many of the Ada projects that I have worked on would have been much
> more difficult, or down right impossible, to manage in C or C++ (I have not
> done large scale development (or even testing) of anything written in Java,
> so I cannot comment on that).  Add to that the fact that for certain types
> of projects, you also get a lower cost of development and (especially)
> maintenance, a tendency for less bugs, etc.
>
> Of course, if you are mostly writing Windows apps, then VC++ is a lot better
> environment than _anything_ you are going to get for Ada (at least at this
> time).  Then again, we are coming back to "use the right tool for the right
> job", and right now, VC++ or VB (or maybe even Java) is often the right tool
> for that job (though Ada is making some in roads there, but the tools are
> not quite on par with VC++ yet (IMHO)).
>

I hate to keep a thread going that started with such an inane comment(see
subject) but *your* points were very well articulated, and lead me to a
question.
As you said, it all boils down to the right tool for the right job.  What
types of jobs are Ada best suited for? I got into development through self
learning, so I never really had the benefit of experiencing a lot of
different languages.

Thanks
Steve

I find Ada best for really big jobs (1_000_000 or more lines) with lots of formal methodologies and a need for high reliability. I hope Java will fill the under 1_000_000 spot one day soon.  
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Russ Lyttle               
 
email : lyttlec@mail.flash.net
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