From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,4feb499c05063194 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail From: Martin Krischik Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Artistically creative expression has no role in software design Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:30:50 +0200 Organization: AdaCL Message-ID: <3455596.97EDm5dujQ@linux1.krischik.com> References: <2m2j9gFhf4cpU1@uni-berlin.de> <2037155.DSSJocQ4yI@linux1.krischik.com> <157lmx3vx3yea$.1thsads2cv8rx.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: krischik@users.sourceforge.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1090405447 07 17152 2jl1Xvxvu9xKd66 040721 10:24:07 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@t-online.de X-ID: bMRLy4ZFQewdDVvLw+-RmgErYv71INbjqisYg9lewdb0XjbTBVgjw+ User-Agent: KNode/0.7.7 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2313 Date: 2004-07-21T11:30:50+02:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:28:06 +0200, Martin Krischik wrote: > >> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> >>> What about UML and other languages intended for solely human readers? >>> >>> [Amateur: Documents written in those languages are not programs?] >> >> Well, a super duper code generator could create quite a lot of program >> from UML - and could be considered a programming language. However I have >> not seen one yet. >> >> All UML generators I have seen generate only from the Class view. They do >> not create from the activity or state charts. >> >> IBM's Visual Age (for Smalltalk, C++ and Java) has shown that it is >> possible to generate classes with there appropriate activity's as well. > > Right, but the author emphasizes that possibility is nothing, intent and > purpose is everything: > > "... While people trained in software may read the source code of computer > programs, this is done for no other purpose than to understand how the > programs work. Hence, it can be said that computer programs are only > literary works in form, whereas in substance they are technology for using > computers. Consequently, the fact that source code reads like the English > language gives the wrong impression as to its true nature." > > In his logic an ability to generate code from UML just "gives the wrong > impression"... But I was trying to answer the question in the [] ;-). - UML Documents are programs - just on a different abstraction level. With Regards Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net http://www.ada.krischik.com