From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11390f,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid11390f,public X-Google-Thread: fd7c9,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gidfd7c9,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: Jack Rudd Subject: Re: Programming language vote - results Date: 1997/10/13 Message-ID: <3442F984.41C6@lmco.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 280391771 References: <343fbb5a.0@news.iprolink.ch> <343FD05C.8986A557@flash.net> <3441B496.41C6@lmco.com> <344285e6.78444776@news.mindspring.com> Organization: Lockheed Martin Federal Systems Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.forth,comp.lang.fortran Date: 1997-10-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Robert Munck wrote: > > Ada turned out to be an excellent scapegoat for the many > management failures that are found in software projects in > general and large projects done by large contractors for the > DoD in particular. Now remember, I didn't blame "Ada" per se. If the team hadn't tried to do OO in Ada, the situation would have been more manageable. Not to say that there weren't other problems too; but these newsgroups are focused on language-related issues. And the team had significant problems with OO in Ada. That's simply a fact. >It will be interesting to see what gets > the blame now that "you don't have Ada to kick around anymore." > I'll bet that it's Microsoft and/or Sun. > Where did you get the idea that we don't have Ada to kick around any more? Ada is still required on some projects. Jack Rudd