From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,b41c6348841d8091,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b41c6348841d8091,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "W. Wesley Groleau x4923" Subject: Re: subjectivity Date: 1997/09/05 Message-ID: <341026A7.37BE@pseserv3.fw.hac.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 269994777 Sender: usenet@most.fw.hac.com (News Administration) References: X-Nntp-Posting-Host: sparc01 Organization: Hughes Defense Communications Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 1997-09-05T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: > :> a) Simpler > :> b) Views may be directed to specific clients > : > :Well, OK, but a) is subjective and viewed another way, the Ada > :mechanism is clearly "simpler". > > Looks like we have different ideas of what is simple. :( Which is why it is subjective. Unless we define "simple" as "easy for the speaker to use because he/she is accustomed to it." > I know you'll probably disagree, ..., but I believe simplicity is > innately, universally, and uniformly recognisable by everyone. > It's an aspect of human perception that occurs > automatically and intantaneously without conscious thought. > Because its a *perceived* quality, some believe it to be subjective. Since you and other(s), by your own admission, have "different ideas of what is simple," you should acknowledge that it is not "uniformly recognisable by everyone." Hence, it is subjective except when, in a particular forum, all participants agree on (in your words) "what measurable qualities engender the notion of simplicity and ... an 'objective' basis for measuring it." But perhaps this topic is ready to join Emmanuel Kant and Ayn Rand over on gnu.misc.discuss -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Groleau, Hughes Defense Communications, Fort Wayne, IN USA Senior Software Engineer - AFATDS Tool-smith Wanna-be wwgrol AT pseserv3.fw.hac.com Don't send advertisements to this domain unless asked! All disk space on fw.hac.com hosts belongs to either Hughes Defense Communications or the United States government. Using email to store YOUR advertising on them is trespassing! ----------------------------------------------------------------------