From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 107d55,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gid107d55,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: leew@micrologic.com (Lee Webber) Subject: Re: The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Date: 1997/08/29 Message-ID: <3406eb7c.9286609@wizard.pn.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 268936617 References: <34023FC9.59E2B600@eiffel.com> <3404670B.C3A2C4A2@pagesmiths.com> <01bcb38a$8ddc1200$1c10d30a@ntwneil> Organization: Pioneer Global Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.java.tech,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1997-08-29T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On 28 Aug 1997 14:03:51 -0400, dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wrote: >neil says > ><C languages. For the other several hundred percent you need to apply DBC, >even if only methodologically.>> > >Any time that people claim giant factors in productivity improvements, they >do the technology for which they make the claim a disservice. [etc] Here's the article to which neil was responding: >James P. White wrote in article ><3404670B.C3A2C4A2@pagesmiths.com>... >> Even though Java lacks anything as comprehensive as DBC, in our >> experience the simple matter of having automatic memory management and >> pointer protection has yielded a productivity boost of several hundred >> percent. Seeing the two together, it's obvious that neil was not making a precise technical claim. Leaving out what you did was a distortion of his message.