From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 107d55,c7b637f8b783b7c X-Google-Attributes: gid107d55,public From: Arthur Nelson Subject: Re: The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Date: 1997/08/29 Message-ID: <3406C0B0.546F@vineyard.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 268920812 References: <34023FC9.59E2B600@eiffel.com> <3404670B.C3A2C4A2@pagesmiths.com> <01bcb38a$8ddc1200$1c10d30a@ntwneil> Organization: CROW Computer Reply-To: art@vineyard.net Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.java.tech,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1997-08-29T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Patrick Doyle wrote: > > In article , Robert Dewar wrote: > >James P. White wrote in article > ><3404670B.C3A2C4A2@pagesmiths.com>... > >> Even though Java lacks anything as comprehensive as DBC, in our > >> experience the simple matter of having automatic memory management and > >> pointer protection has yielded a productivity boost of several hundred > >> percent. > > > >If automatic memory management really cut down your development time by > >a factor of several, I hate to think of what on earth you were doing to > >waste that much time previously. Sure memory management problems can be > >persnickety, but if they are taking up 80% of your time, something is > >VERY wrong with the way you are writing programs. > > That's a pretty cheap shot, Robert. Plus, it's not necessarily > true. There are applications that just beg for automatic memory > management, and if they happend upon one of these, they certainly > could have seen such an improvement. > > For my part, I'd guess that at least 40 to 50% of my time is > spent looking for memory allocation bugs in C++. > > If this isn't the case with you then, well, I suppose you're > just the greatest darn programmer in the whole world. > > -PD > -- > -- > Patrick Doyle > doylep@ecf.utoronto.ca 40 to 50% is astounding.