From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,f8c029da202116ff X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-14 20:00:42 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!212.177.105.133!news.mailgate.org!mygate.mailgate.org!198.207.153.205!not-for-mail From: "Kent Paul Dolan" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: Development process in the Ada community Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 03:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <33dba7aa95382e0493b3c567d19d4c0e.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB7E244.4090105@snafu.de> <2dWMkL$GpNnq@eisner.encompasserve.org> <3CB85658.5050406@snafu.de> <8YmWznELCFXQ@eisner.encompasserve.org> <3CB8F2A1.B2D22FEB@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.207.153.205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.mailgate.org 1018839348 15262 198.207.153.205 (Mon Apr 15 05:00:41 2002) X-Complaints-To: abuse@mailgate.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 03:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Injector-Info: news.mailgate.org; posting-host=198.207.153.205; posting-account=48257; posting-date=1018839348 User-Agent: Mailgate Web Server X-URL: http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/comp/comp.lang.ada/33dba7aa95382e0493b3c567d19d4c0e.48257%40mygate.mailgate.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22534 misc.misc:6307 Date: 2002-04-15T03:00:41+00:00 List-Id: "Gary Scott" wrote: > I wish someone would resurrect GKS/CGM. I love those. It needs to be > modernized a little, but I like the clear clean terminology and design. > There are only a few things that I prefer about IBM's GDDM over GKS. Why bless your heart! There was a half-hearted GKS implementation or binding, I'm not sure which, for Ada 83, I believe in AdaSAGE; if it had been completed to handle all the interactive issues, GKS would probably be one of a working set of graphics packages highly used by the Ada community. I cannot really blame the implementors, though, when MS-Windows is the dominant platform and is infamous (at least with me, from harsh experience writing shrink-wrap software some time ago) for having few or no device interface standards. Doing a full up GKS when there is nothing standard to which it can interface is really tough. That is what the VDI (virtual device interface) was supposed to accomplish, but for all of me, that standard seems to have disappeared without a trace. The closest thing that exists today to a virtualized device interface is embedded in the Java Virtual Machine, and I'm too new to Java to know whether it really caters for all the nastiness of printing and all the various pointing and clicking devices. xanthian. On the bright side, a _lot_ of the interface devices that were popular back in the GKS days seem to have become deprecated by time; I don't see many analog to digital devices for real valued input in my limited viewport to the world, though there are a few 3D mice floating about of which I'm vbaguely aware. As to an upgraded GKS, the standards committee is always open to new membership. This little tidbit will prove interesting: Binding Status: The Ada binding to GKS (GKS/Ada) is an ANSI/ISO standard. Documentation: The ANSI GKS/Ada Binding is published by ANSI as document #X3.124.3. The International Standard is published as ISO 8651-3. To inquire about availability of either standard, contact: ANSI, 1430 Broadway, New York, NY 10018; tel (sales): 212/354-3300; general: 212/354-3300 For more information, contact: Richard F. Puk, Chairman, X3H3.4, Puk Consulting Services, 7644 Cortina Court, Carlsbad, CA 92009-8206; tel: 619/753-9027; fax: same as phone; e-mail: rpuk@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu. Found here: http://archive.adaic.com/tools/bindings/GKS/GKS-bindings.txt I have no idea whether Dick Puk is still X3H3 Chairman, and I was baffled by the ANSI main site that it doesn't seem to index its technical committees. [ I once implemented full bells-and-whistles 3D graphics on a stroke-drawn machine from a SIGGRAPH article by Dick Puk; he and I go back a couple of decades. Neither would recognize the other by now. ] -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG