From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,d24e07f660698f1 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,d24e07f660698f1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d24e07f660698f1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,d24e07f660698f1 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: tomchen@aloha.com (Tom M. Chen) Subject: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Date: 1997/07/11 Message-ID: <33cc35e0.49261891@news.pixi.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 256182016 References: <33C61545.167EB0E7@tower.com> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-07-11T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:13:09 -0400, "ivory@tower.com" wrote: :My friend's son is looking at colleges, and was startled to see :that RIT appears to have a heavy focus on the language Eiffel for :the first 2-3 years. He's using this as a black mark against the :school. The thinking is that he'd rather be learning a 'real' :language that has real-life value on the job market. : :He's asked me for my opinion, and I'd have to say that I somewhat :agree. I've never met an Eiffel programer, and don't see a lot of :ads for them in the classifieds. Note: I'm not debating whether or :not Eiffel is a good language; that's not the concern. The concern :is whether or not the job market will see this as having been time :well spent. : :So, what's the (reality based) counter argument? : : :[obviously, I seldom (ever) read each of the newsgroups I posted this :to, so please e-mail responses as well as re-post. thanks] Hey, M.I.T. uses Eiffel as their learning language, too. I don't see any disadvantages in it though. Maybe Eiffel is a better language than C++ in that it helps you learn better programming concepts, so you might end up becoming a better C++ or Java programmer compared to those who learned C++ in college. As long as the language is object oriented, I don't see any problems because once you learned the concepts, you can learn other languages quickly. Tom